Overtraining? Do you even lift bro?

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Kad1

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So there has been some discussion on training splits, frequency of training body parts, nutrition and recovery so I thought I’d bring up overtraining.
My personal view is the vast majority of people don’t train hard or long enough to suffer from overtraining. That being said training has a cumulative effect meaning the more frequently you train the more stress you cause the body. Now if you are sleeping enough and sleep is an entirely different topic but if you are getting “enough”, eating well in proper quantities and performing some active recovery this shouldn’t be an issue. But for most of us here we hit the gym pretty hard 4-6 days per week so I would say overtraining is a concern. I myself started to feel overtraining effects about 2 months ago. Was doing 2 a day workouts with jujitsu in the middle. I started to have very decreased energy levels, my whole body hurt . All the common symptoms of overtraining. Here is a few symptoms to be on the look out for,
1. Decreased performance.

The telltale sign of overtraining is a lack of improved performance, despite an increase in training intensity or volume. Decreased agility, strength and endurance, such as slower reaction timesand reduced running speeds are all common signs of overtraining.

2. Increased perceived effort during workouts.

Not only can overtraining decrease performance, it can also make seemingly effortless workouts feel unusually difficult. A clear sign of this is an abnormally elevated heart rate during exercise or throughout the day. If you are experiencing OTS, you may find that it takes longer for your heart rate to return to normal after a workout.

3. Excessive fatigue.

A few days of fatigue or “heavy legs” is expected at times. But fatigue will accumulate in a body that never has a chance to fully recover from previous workouts. Further, chronic, negative energy expenditure leads to something called “low energy availability,” which means that the body is consistently pulling from its own energy stores (carbs, protein, fat). This can be the result of too much training or too little fueling.

4. Agitation and moodiness.

Overtraining significantly affects your stress hormones, including cortisol and epinephrine. This hormonal imbalance can cause mood swings, unusual irritability and an inability to concentrate.

5. Insomnia or restless sleep.

Sleep ideally provides the body time to rest and repair itself. But overproduction of stress hormones, as mentioned above, may not allow you to wind down or completely relax, making sleep much less effective (which compounds chronic fatigue and moodiness).

6. Loss of appetite.

A hormone imbalance can also affect hunger and satiety mechanisms. More training should stimulate more appetite, but the physiological exhaustion of OTS can actually lead to appetite suppression.

7. Chronic or nagging injuries.

Overused muscles and joints can cause constant aches or joint pain. Pain that does not subside in two weeks (or so) should be considered a notable injury. Overtraining taxes all of the body’s systems and also makes it more difficult to ward off infections. Thus, frequent illnesses and upper-respiratory tract infections (URTIs) are signs as well. Medical complications may also include low bone mineral density and low testosterone.

8. Metabolic imbalances.

Long-term low energy availability may lead to nutrient deficiencies, such as iron deficiency anemia, which have the potential to harm both health and performance. Medical complications can also involve the cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, endocrine, nervous or reproductive systems (e.g., menstrual cycle disturbances in women).

9. Psychological stress and/or depression.

If you’re like me you live for punishing workouts and grueling competitions. If this sounds like you, the inability to train (combined with an imbalance of hormones and lack of quality sleep) can significantly affect your psyche.

A better approach is to follow a periodized training program that includes both active recovery and complete rest. Rest can be frustrating, but recognize that a day or two spent on the foam roller is better than a day or two in bed. Recovery today not only allows for greater production tomorrow, but likely fewer missed training days over the next few months.
 
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Agree … I have gone 6-7 days per week for years … although my 400 lb benches and 100 dumbells are not even in my thoughts anymore and haven’t been in yearsss… but if you listen to your body and smart with nutrition and Chems … I think rest days are over rated! My opinion, legends in 70-80 never took days off and usually did 2 a days.
 
Reading this, ibm e been overtraining for ever!! 😂🤣 Seriously, I need a break. I don’t think I’ve taken more than a week off in probably 10 years… I even look at the Gyms at hotels for vacation… I think the month of July I am taking a break for the month. Break from training, diet and products I use. I just need to reset. 😁
 
I have a friend who’s pro bodybuilder, I mean legit IFBB pro. He took 16 weeks of from extra ciricular activities. Cut back training and relaxed diet. It won’t hurt you. I’ve gone super easy for 2 weeks because of my surgery and everything feels better. No aches or pains amd I feel ready to get back to work as soon as I’m cleared
 
That’s how I had it in my head that it would work. Take some time off… piddle around in the gym just to lube everything up. Maybe relax this stupid diet a little. Feel great and go back to hitting it hard.
 
Important for guys to recognize if there is a problem and understand that resting won’t slow down your gains. Actually may help improve. Also understand that it takes a lot to actually overtrain. Many times it’s not truly overtraining it’s under recovering
 
I notice this when I do not sleep well. If that happens a couple of days in a row, my workouts are impaired for nearly a week. Conversely, if I’m sleeping well, eating well, and not drinking, I can do 6-7 days a week without issue. Unfortunately, that is the exception, not not the rule!
 
I loved reading this even though im a day behind I pinned it for a week also its a great read.

I was waiting to see about cortisol levels rising from over training. This is the first thing that the body does, I believe could be completely wrong but once you feel joint pain that’s supposed to be the first sign of the rise in cortisol.

Or is this above all BS? It definitely could be its from forums not a book or anything?
@Kad1
 
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Cortisol is released when ever the body undergoes stress but I do not believe there to be a correlation between cortisol, increased inflammation amd joint pain
 
That’s the first thing I do when lokijj in bf to go in vaca now is find a gym with day oases
 
I always train while on vacation. Everyday but travel days
 
I already as u know where to go when I visit home. Have some friends who just gave birth and there kids first onesy was from the gym it’s just no frills powerlifting got tacos platforms benches and all the comp shit to train to with also I got to use reverse hyper there
 
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