How would handle off season with a cycle?
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on the idea off season cycle/diet/training rigid?
Parrot @NeuroRN.
There’s a BIG difference in an actual actively competing athlete and everyone else.
My opinion…there’s only a handful of actual athletes on this forum… the rest of us are just meathead hobbyists. That’s where the line is drawn for gear usage…there’s also another line… the one where an athlete is competing as part of his career/income/brand and the casual competitor that competes as a hobby and makes a living doing something else.
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There’s a BIG difference in an actual actively competing athlete and everyone else.
My opinion…there’s only a handful of actual athletes on this forum… the rest of us are just meathead hobbyists. That’s where the line is drawn for gear usage…there’s also another line… the one where an athlete is competing as part of his career/income/brand and the casual competitor that competes as a hobby and makes a living doing something else.
My opinion which is worth exactly what I charged…nothing.
Are you referring to cycling? I’m not on trt. I am still able to produce moderate testosterone off cycle (550ish) which I’m comfortable at. Off cycle my diet consist of dialing in maintenance calories to where ever I’m am at the end of my cycle. As far as training goes, generally it’s the same routine with slightly less volume and maybe an extra day off for recovery. Generally sleep and recovery are priority during the off cycle and I don’t cut or add surplus calories.
Not that i do anything spectacular these days but my diet is extremely strict when there is no added goodies tacked onto my trt. Just regular ole strict when something is added.
Training is less volume without goodies.
I’m not a big fan of bulking and what not. Most of the time folks just get fleshy fat lose muscle tone…put on unnecessary poundage (fat) and lose some when there in the “cutting” phase… just to net…what…maybe a couple of pounds of muscle…and carry around some leftover fat. The competing athletes have theirselves dialed in an (individualized) uncanny way and/or have coachs. Take @Kad1 for instance. He wasn’t “bulked” up all fleshy and fat before he started his prep.
I propose slow and steady muscle building without putting on too much fat.
Training is less volume without goodies.
I’m not a big fan of bulking and what not. Most of the time folks just get fleshy fat lose muscle tone…put on unnecessary poundage (fat) and lose some when there in the “cutting” phase… just to net…what…maybe a couple of pounds of muscle…and carry around some leftover fat. The competing athletes have theirselves dialed in an (individualized) uncanny way and/or have coachs. Take @Kad1 for instance. He wasn’t “bulked” up all fleshy and fat before he started his prep.
I propose slow and steady muscle building without putting on too much fat.
My opinion…our lifestyle, regular ole meatheads doesn’t cross over to what the pros do. That’s where some get a little lost. The pros “bulk” in between shows so I am too. The pros must starve themselves for a show so i am too…I’m not a pro…not even close.
My buddy just went to pinehurst for an all inclusive weekend playing on the pro course. He was telling me the ridiculous spacing of the tees…the pro tees were way back there. He told me one hole it looked like a hundred yards.
My buddy just went to pinehurst for an all inclusive weekend playing on the pro course. He was telling me the ridiculous spacing of the tees…the pro tees were way back there. He told me one hole it looked like a hundred yards.
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Essentially what poppy is saying is where I stand. Slow and steady. I went from 185 to 250 over 5 years. That’s 13 lbs a year and honestly that’s a phenomenal growth rate. I ate 5-6000 cals a day for most of that time, but had some injuries along the way. I’m also aware that I do have a some great genetics to pull from, even eating that much I put on some fat but nothing I couldn’t lose in a month or two.
Slow and steady always wins. It’s better for your health and you get to enjoy life a little more.
I don’t wanna look like I’m competing in open body building, and I’m not competing in general so why would I mimic their diet protocols and cycle design?
I think the important thing is to not let up. I started adderall back and took full advantage of snow season up here and that landed me back down at 226 lbs at one point. Felt pretty lean but felt small. So up the cals go.
As far as training, as stated above diet and recovery become even more important.
Slow and steady always wins. It’s better for your health and you get to enjoy life a little more.
I don’t wanna look like I’m competing in open body building, and I’m not competing in general so why would I mimic their diet protocols and cycle design?
I think the important thing is to not let up. I started adderall back and took full advantage of snow season up here and that landed me back down at 226 lbs at one point. Felt pretty lean but felt small. So up the cals go.
As far as training, as stated above diet and recovery become even more important.
I agree, most blur the line when “bulking” between outing on muscle and putting on too much at. As we get older I don’t think we should ever bulk. Slow and steady. Slight calorie surplus and continue some steady state cardio and you can’t go wrong. Most people don’t train hard enough to take advantage of the surplus to begin with
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