“I Want To Be Real Big”

[Poppy]

This is a generalization of the human race and our lifestyle. It is not all inclusive and there are many variables but it’s what I’ve found to be generally true.

You tell a man he’s small…tiny or petite and that’s an insult. Conversely, tell a woman she’s huge, big or giant…insulting…right?

This fella would be considered “huge” and this lady would be considered “tiny”.

To apply it to our lifestyle; when someone says they want to be “big” does that mean big and fleshy/fat OR big muscles with a reasonably low maintainable percentage of bf? Do you want veins (reasonable) or flab?

I’m of the opinion that some folks throw way too much chems into their body without regard to the end game.

If it’s aesthetics a person is seeking then diet should be paramount leaning towards fat loss and looking for those ever elusive abs.

If its chasing the mass monster (think Mr Olympia not the fella pictured up top) then intelligent eating is going to have to be non-stop.

Strength sports are a different animal, some of the heavier weight class competitors don’t really care what the mirror says so long as they can perform at the highest levels of their chosen discipline. Although, I know powerlifters have been edging towards more lean mass and a little more emphasis on health as of late.

There’s also the guys that are perfectly fine with just lifting weights and getting “big(er)”. No real muscle definition maybe a vein… a little pudge around the waist. They actually look more fat(ish) than muscular.

I’m also of the opinion that you can’t out train a bad diet or out juice a terrible lifestyle, training habits or diet. I’m a good example of that. In my forties I was a decent pl’r with a good “look” but I did everything wrong with my diet and lifestyle. I tried to out juice it with a little success… not much.

Sure, everyone can say “ what about so and so” or “I know a dude”… there’s always going to be outliers… you can’t prove the rule with an exception.

To add an overarching opinion to this… I think there’s a lot of folks that put way too much “stuff” in their body’s… when a well thought out eating plan and a training protocol would have been better served…along with a carefully planned out cycle.

My opinion…which is worth exactly what I charged you… nothing

 

[JLee]

Well said

 

[PNWmuscle]

Diet is literally everything. Way more important than gear or even training with intensity to be honest. Bet a guy with a perfect diet for their goals and lackluster training would look way better than someone with perfect intense training and a shit diet

 

[PNWmuscle]

I’m on the steroids sub Reddit a lot and it is SCARY how many people hop on a bunch of gear and don’t even know how to eat properly

 

[Dirtnasty]

I’m trying to keep some aesthetics while power lifting got to look good for the ladies

 

[John]

No you dont.

 

[Dirtnasty]

This is true but if I do bb show I should have good base before i start

 

[NeuroRN]

I’m of the opinion that some folks throw way too much chems into their body without regard to the end game.

I’m with that victor black guy on this one… we have to start thinking 20 years down the road… not 20 weeks.

 

[Symarip85]

I’ve always been a fan of research. This is a habit I come by naturally. I want to know worst case scenario, best case, and most common. This absolutely applies to AAS just as much as diet, it’s true that a lot of people don’t understand that these two things work in tandem. I always try to make an informed decision, although sometimes the info isn’t always easy to find or forthcoming. And there is no substitute for life experience which is why UGM is invaluable. And as far as looks, I like having more quality mass than anyone else in the room, I like being intimidating with my presence, like I can break your f’in neck but I’m Probly not going to.

 

[Poppy]

Here is a young man that had little to no knowledge of anything training. Diet, weight lifting… literally nothing. Weak as a kitten and zero aesthetics. He started a cycle of T without laying any groundwork.

My opinion: he’s basically pissed away money and put his health at risk and the only outcome was adding more pudge to his already pudgy body with very little strength gain.

The before after shot was after first cycle. The solo pic was during 2nd cycle.

 

[NeuroRN]

He is an excellent example of why I encourage folks to have their diet and training in check before hopping on. If you have no concept of what food is going in this is the most common outcome. Soft.