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Stimulants: The Love Hate Relationship

AMP

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Deep into the grind. And at some point, almost everyone in this lane ends up using stimulants. Pre workout, fat burners, caffeine stacking, appetite suppressors, “just a little extra push.” It starts innocent. Then it gets loud.

Stims work. That’s why they’re tempting. Energy goes up, hunger goes down, cardio feels easier, training intensity spikes. On paper, they look like cheat codes. In reality, they’re more like borrowing energy.

The first thing people don’t talk about is tolerance. What smacked at week one barely whispers by week four. So doses creep. Scoops get heavier. Timing gets tighter. Suddenly you’re not using stims to perform better, you’re using them to feel normal enough to train.

Sleep takes the first hit. Then recovery. Then mood. You start waking up wired but tired. Rest days feel restless instead of restorative. Cortisol stays elevated, and now fat loss stalls even though calories are tight and cardio is high. Irony at its finest.

There’s also the mental side. Stims can trick you into thinking you’re more locked in than you actually are. You feel productive, but sometimes it’s just nervous energy. Form gets sloppy. Patience disappears. Training becomes aggressive instead of intentional. That’s when injuries sneak in.

Used strategically, stimulants can be a tool. Early morning cardio. Low calorie phases. Short pushes when fatigue is high. Used recklessly, they become a crutch that masks poor sleep, bad recovery, or unrealistic workload expectations.

The seasoned lifters eventually learn this, real progress comes from managing stress, not stacking it. Food, sleep, deloads, and pulling back at the right time will always outperform living stimmed out year round.

Stims aren’t evil. They’re just honest. They expose how well or poorly you’re managing the rest of the equation.

Do you cycle stimulants or run them continuously?
Have you noticed tolerance or diminishing returns?
What signs tell you it’s time to pull back rather than push harder?
 
I love stimulants way too much. I stay way from all but caffeine and mdma at this point
How much caffeine do to average a day? I love stimulants as well but I definitely have to take breaks I'm between because my tolerance starts going up fast lol
 
How much caffeine do to average a day? I love stimulants as well but I definitely have to take breaks I'm between because my tolerance starts going up fast lol
Not much really. I like real stimulants. I’m an ex coke head
 
How much caffeine do to average a day? I love stimulants as well but I definitely have to take breaks I'm between because my tolerance starts going up fast lol
To answer question I used to take 400 mg pwo when I was going heavy then realized to really get the desired results I should be going higher. I’m powerlifter. Now squats is lay off the caffeine as I didn’t like the jitters with weight on back. Honestly for bb if your not using as way to help weight loss all they to is counteract pump products so I would just go with out unless it’s needed on that day
 
To answer question I used to take 400 mg pwo when I was going heavy then realized to really get the desired results I should be going higher. I’m powerlifter. Now squats is lay off the caffeine as I didn’t like the jitters with weight on back. Honestly for bb if your not using as way to help weight loss all they to is counteract pump products so I would just go with out unless it’s needed on that day
I like that perspective 💪
 
I’m with @Dirtnasty

I liked cocain and meth (the real stuff not trailer park stuff). I liked going fast….along with a drinking problem.

Clean and sober right at 15 years now.

I drink 3-6 cups of strong black coffee a day. Mostly half cups. I do not take any stimulants for pwo. Maybe a cup of coffee every so often.
 
Paraxanthan is something to try instead of caffeine it’s way more expensive right now but it’s the what your body breaks down most of caffeine into and I find it feels better
 
Paraxanthan is something to try instead of caffeine it’s way more expensive right now but it’s the what your body breaks down most of caffeine into and I find it feels better
Just looked it up. Amazon has capsules. Any other recommendations?
 
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Just looked it up. Amazon has capsules. Any other recommendations?
Not really again I just used soaringly as it’s cost is high and it’s really just caffeine with out the negatives
 
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