Vision's blood work on TRT with Mast-E and Proviron

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As many of you know I blast & cruise, more blasting than cruising with switch hitting… I had blood work that was expected to be pulled from my Doc, he actually forgot and I had to remind him, it worked out well because I wanted to come off for a bit and do a little small cruise (6 weeks’ish) and give my CNS a moment to recoup as well as giving my REC’s a brake…

I figured this would also be a great opportunity to take advantage of Masteron and Proviron used in conjunction with my TRT… For the following reasons to keep libido strong, depression at a low at the same time optimizing the most out of my TRT dosage…

The addition with Proviron & Masteron is that it’s a useful tool for the TRT user and specifically for those that cruise on low “T” doses who wish to inhibit the conversion of T to estrogen. By inhibiting the aromatase enzyme, Masteron would be in effect blocking the conversion of free testosterone to estrogen by the aromatisation pathway Yielding great levels of Free usable test. This would not only serve to marginally increase the amounts of active free testosterone in circulation (thus giving a greater effect of the testosterone during a TRT treatment or cruise)… With this said, I was just using 200mgs Script test-cyp E7D (with script adex .5 E3D) and Masteron-200 E7D and proviron at 50mg ED this ultimately created a match made in heaven, a complimentary duo!

Bloods were pulled 3 days after last pin and I was fasted and the panel was a sensitive essay (I wanted to see if my BS levels would effect estrogen total serum by way of estrone elevation due to fasting)… I have BS issues along with a family history of diabetes, the serum levels were extremely high and I doubt there was cross-reactivity of anything else due to the fact that E2 was low… Being in a fasted state seems to be the culprit…

Further more, people tend to put blood serum numbers in a standard range of expectancy… I’ve always advocated that I’m a slow/low metabolizer, even at 200mg which is the high end of TRT treatment and I barely scraped the high end… It proves that this truly is NOT a one size fits all…

My closing comments : Libido was great, appetite was strong and I have no complaints, my sense of well-being was on point…The extreme low SHBG levels IMO are directly associated with the mast/prov, thus the result of low estro and higher free T…This can explain why I continued to feel great even after lowering my T dosage significantly…

I will continually use Euro-pharmacies Mast and/or Proviron with every cruise I do!

Outstanding products…
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There’s an Easter egg here that’s hidden inside of all of this, it’s something I don’t want people to miss.
This goes to prove that you really don’t need much test… I laughed when I see guys chasing a total serum number, they are expecting numbers in or around the 3k + range and they believe that this is where you need to be in order to make the most progress… I will say this again, stop chasing total serums and focus on free test levels… people can have 3000 of bound test and that doesn’t mean anything, in fact that testosterone is useless…

People should incorporate compounds that are complementary with freeing up bound testosterone into more bioavailable testosterone…

The moral of my point, is free up your test levels and let all of the other compounds be the workhorse…

Know how to optimize your testosterone levels so they can work best for you… it’s not quantity but rather qualities…
I would rather have several hundred work horses, compared to 3000 useless horses…
 
Nice write up.
Question. Do you run anything for that high estrogen level or do you worry only about your Estradiol only?
 
That high estro is most-likely due to the ultra sensitive test that I requested, and the fact that I was fasted… I worry just about E2, but as far as Estrone (E1) I believe my levels are off due to being fasted. I do have BS issues, so I go hypo often, so this is a good indicator that I’m on the fence with type 2 diabetes… I had blood for for this a few months back and everything come back negative…
All in all, I’m very happy with the results, and the free T is great and I feel great…
 
Vision said:
The moral of my point, is free up your test levels and let all of the other compounds be the workhorse…
I couldn’t agree more with this statement. I think that proviron has made a huge difference for me while cruising on lower testosterone levels carring less water because of proviron and lower estrogen and higher free testosterone you feel better and look great.

Great information
 
So, I will be starting TRT after this 1st cycle (ever) I’d Test E and VAR.

Would adding Proviron in at 50MG/Day & Mast 200MG/Week as soon as I start TRT be ok, or would that be too soon after my very 1st cycle??

Do you split the Mast twice a week??
 
I would go back to trt dose and once bloodwork is stable again meaning lipids and other things you can start to play again so that something doesn’t happen and you don’t know what is causing it to happen.

Proviron over Drostanolone for trt depends on what you are trying to achieve by taking either compound.

You have to read more about the differences of Drostanolone propionate or enanthate and proviron.
 
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