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benchpress

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I've been on reta for about 8 weeks - it's killed my appetite pretty bad and I got a side effect from it where my pain sensory is turned up quite a bit. I think I'm going to just stop using it for awhile so I can hit my calories on cycle.
Started Super Test 450 today. Plan is 1mL 2 times a week for 16 weeks. 8 weeks of tbol will likely be started half way through, but someone did say I should start it now, lol - considering it - would it be potentially better to use that in the beginning or the half way mark?

I'm also considering adding GH in.

Thoughts?

Open to all feedback lol
 
that is definitely way overboard. unless you are already 6'2 295lbs on 6% body fat. thats overkill. dont add more compounds. test only. tbe fewer the variables the better.

the reta sensitivity will diminish. if you stop, it will come back when you start again.

how much reta did you start with and end with?
 
Neuro said:
that is definitely way overboard. unless you are already 6'2 295lbs on 6% body fat. thats overkill. dont add more compounds. test only. tbe fewer the variables the better.

the reta sensitivity will diminish. if you stop, it will come back when you start again.

how much reta did you start with and end with?
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Reta - first week, .5 to test waters, weeks 2-3 1mg, 4-6 2mg, 7-8 4mg - probably jumped to 4 way too quick which is why I ended up with the pain side - 2mg wasn't feeling very effective towards the end of the week. I did lose the belly but also noticed getting my protein goals was nearly impossible and my gym progress was definitely taking a hit. I figured just disciplining myself to stick to meal preps and getting off reta would be better.
The test is mixture of acetate, decanoate, propionate, phenyl, cypionate - I was told do it 2x week for best results
 
"this particular stuff" is a mix if 5 esters that will allow break down at different time. Ace causing very short spikes. prop causing spikes in 24 hours. phenylprop 2 days. etc. get a single Ester test.
 
I am not as versed in the pharnacology or pharmokinetics of AAS as the company I keep on here. In my novice and naieve observation.
You have not mentinoed labs. If you don't know the nunbers to start what are you are actually doing is working blind. Nobody calibrated your feelings or your pump. Nunbers from a lab test are the metrics you need to use to manage your hormone manipulation. You can get MD in this! I pay $68 a month for labs. Test, E2 Sensitive a BMP.
https://goodlabs.com/login?utm_sour...=results_page&mode=signup&referralCode=MVEEJ5

I will be blunt, 900mgs without an AI and you will raise your estrogen. What happens to you IDK, I would have breasts. Big beutiful teenage tits. Brand new ones...


Best advice, ask these guys. They will not really tell you what to do but I got the ..."that's a lot of sauce..." from @Poppy and I had to stop and think about what I was doing.
 
Kevin Mack said:
I am not as versed in the pharnacology or pharmokinetics of AAS as the company I keep on here. In my novice and naieve observation.
You have not mentinoed labs. If you don't know the nunbers to start what are you are actually doing is working blind. Nobody calibrated your feelings or your pump. Nunbers from a lab test are the metrics you need to use to manage your hormone manipulation. You can get MD in this! I pay $68 a month for labs. Test, E2 Sensitive a BMP.
https://goodlabs.com/login?utm_sour...=results_page&mode=signup&referralCode=MVEEJ5

I will be blunt, 900mgs without an AI and you will raise your estrogen. What happens to you IDK, I would have breasts. Big beutiful teenage tits. Brand new ones...


Best advice, ask these guys. They will not really tell you what to do but I got the ..."that's a lot of sauce..." from @Poppy and I had to stop and think about what I was doing.
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hahah @Poppy doesn't have to say much. when he gives you the,.thats a lot of sauce line you know its time to re-evaluate.
 
Kevin Mack said:
I am not as versed in the pharnacology or pharmokinetics of AAS as the company I keep on here. In my novice and naieve observation.
You have not mentinoed labs. If you don't know the nunbers to start what are you are actually doing is working blind. Nobody calibrated your feelings or your pump. Nunbers from a lab test are the metrics you need to use to manage your hormone manipulation. You can get MD in this! I pay $68 a month for labs. Test, E2 Sensitive a BMP.
https://goodlabs.com/login?utm_sour...=results_page&mode=signup&referralCode=MVEEJ5

I will be blunt, 900mgs without an AI and you will raise your estrogen. What happens to you IDK, I would have breasts. Big beutiful teenage tits. Brand new ones...


Best advice, ask these guys. They will not really tell you what to do but I got the ..."that's a lot of sauce..." from @Poppy and I had to stop and think about what I was doing.
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So I do have AI - but not touching it unless I get issues - Yeah, no labs, so obviously this was kind of irresponsible - I wont deny that - but I just got to a "fuck it" point.
 
Poppy said:
My opinion only. That’s a lot of sauce. Almost a gram a week just with T.
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He says it's less than 450 - so that's why I'm just doing what he's saying - he's got other people doing the same thing with great results. I know, kinda stupid, lol - I have a friend who recommended this guy so that's the reason it went this way.
 
Hey brother I’m all about free will. Everyone has got to do what they gotta do. Please keep us posted.
Just be wary of any sides. Everyone is different.
 
benchpress said:
He says it's less than 450 - so that's why I'm just doing what he's saying - he's got other people doing the same thing with great results. I know, kinda stupid, lol - I have a friend who recommended this guy so that's the reason it went this way.
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he says. he says. he says. I say it sounds like you are just taking whatever someone tells you and sounds like youre gonna end up getting hurt.
 
First time running test you're doing like 3x more than what's needed IMO.
Even the often mentioned "500mg for first cycle" to me is too much.

I would run 300mg test total, no orals and do bloods after 8 weeks to see where you are at.
Again, its just my opinion and what I would do. And keep the Reta at 1mg a week.

No need to jump in with tons of stuff, high doses, etc. The high end of normal is the best place to be IMO.
Helps to keep the rest of your body at baseline as well (bloods, numbers, etc).
 
Hatchet66 said:
First time running test you're doing like 3x more than what's needed IMO.
Even the often mentioned "500mg for first cycle" to me is too much.

I would run 300mg test total, no orals and do bloods after 8 weeks to see where you are at.
Again, its just my opinion and what I would do. And keep the Reta at 1mg a week.

No need to jump in with tons of stuff, high doses, etc. The high end of normal is the best place to be IMO.
Helps to keep the rest of your body at baseline as well (bloods, numbers, etc).
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Perfect
 
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