A "Neurodiverse" Adds Wellbutrin to His "Cruise" Regimen...and Gives Up Alcohol Altogether...For Now

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Haven’t started a thread in a while, so thought I’d disclose a couple of things. I’m doing it in part because it’s cathartic–it just feels good to get it off your chest, as it were. But I’m also doing it because my situation may very well resonate with some or all of you. It’s not all that uncommon, I don’t think.

I’m “neurodiverse,” which is the current euphemism for being “on the Autistic spectrum.” It manifests itself in my case in the typical way of not experiencing feelings things I should feel naturally. I’ve had to learn to feel them. The only thing I’ve felt naturally is alienated from just about everyone my entire life–literally like an alien living among human beings.

The upside to this is I’m smart–smart enough to observe how other people acted and felt and internalized it, so much so that by college, I was rush chairman of my fraternity (which admittedly was kinda Animal House-like). Of course, the downside is this ain’t really me. It’s just a set of dispositions I concocted to get along. So over the course of the past three or so years, particularly during the pandemic and with the love and support of my incredible wife (I got it right the second time), I’ve been peeling back that onion and getting to the real core.

The huge irony of all this is that as a result, I’ve never been more successful in any of my chosen endeavors than I am now. Apparently that alien core ain’t so bad. Weird, sure. Offbeat? You bet. But do I now give a flying fuck? Not one. I’m all out of fucks to give. My fuck jar is empty.

All good, right? Not so fast. Along with this “real me” stuff has come some withering self-criticism, not originating from anyone or any influence other than myself. And that kind of self-criticism, damn, it’s hard to live with sometimes. So when I start going down that rabbit hole, I know it’s happening, but I can’t control it, and it winds up with a desperate wish to go to sleep and not wake up. Alcohol deepens these rabbit holes tremendously and makes them even more difficult to escape. Fortunately, they only last about 24-48 hours before I snap out of it and regain my footing.

I don’t want to die, and SSRI’s only make me dull and impotent, so after going through all of this with my smart and attractive female doc, she put me on Wellbutrin 150mg ED, which you all probably know is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. I had a feeling it might be the right path for me because I periodically take armodafinil to stay awake during long engine building sessions or legal work, and that is a mild dopamine reuptake inhibitor or perhaps agonist, I don’t know which. Kratom, which I take as a substitute for Advil, has a similar effect, albeit to a much lesser degree than armodafinil.

Upshot is that I’ve started down rabbit holes over the past to weeks on Wellbutrin, but the holes aren’t as deep and the suicidal wishes either don’t appear or don’t stick. The only time it got close is when I let myself have four (yes, four) glasses of wine. That, my friends, was a bad night. So after 57 years of drinking like a fish, I’ve given it up, at least for the near future, as a matter of self-preservation. I’m sure there will be times when I miss it–wine with my wife before a fuck or beers with my sons at a football game–but not enough to jeopardize my life.

A side benefit is: this stuff (Wellbutrin) kinda jazzes me up a bit! I mean, I feel kind of a constant postitive energy. So much so that by 9-10 at night, I’m fucking beat and yes, mercifully, can go to sleep and stay asleep (save for old-man piss sessions) until 5-6 am. I haven’t had that kind of sleep consistently in years, and man I forgot what a difference it makes.

Thanks for reading this far. Hope it was worth it!

PS: Forgot to add that I’m still on 50mg Test Prop ED and 20mg Mast Prop ED and Proviron and Cialis and Telmisartan.
 
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Very deep man thanks for sharing! Quitting drinking can never be a bad thing. I gave up drinking 3 years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. I’m at the point where I can have the rare occasional drink in social situations and not fall off the horse. Glad you’re feeling better!
 
Man I’m glad you posted this brother. Happy you got some positive momentum and the no alcohol will be huge for you. I’ve pretty much given it up, aside from a couple recent weddings. My body just can’t handle it anymore, I had a wedding in October and drank 10 drinks a day for 3 days and legit didn’t feel right for a month after. Finally feeling good and it felt good to not drink on thanksgiving when most of my family does. Can you tell me more about the Wellbutrin? I’ve been prescribed by my doc for a while and on auto refill, have so much sitting around. Have started and stopped a couple times, never taking for more than a couple weeks so I don’t think I gave it a chance for full effects. How are you feeling on it?
 
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Likely not drinking for awhile myself. I was starting to drink heavily three days a week with the Friday-sundays being off. I think with being with somebody who was using weed all the time I justified my drinking on off days she wanted me to smoke with her and I don’t like being high with out a few drinks I always do dry January but figured unless I’m invited out to something there is no. Red for me to sit at home and have drinks by myself.
 
Stretch22 said:
How are you feeling on it?
I definitely feel it. It kind of increases my general level of contentment so that when I dip, it’s not as deep or as long. And it does increase my general level of energy, so much so that I’ve actually lost a couple of pounds of fat! Nothing but good things to say about it so far.
 
Yes sir been on that before but to me it made me feel like the 1st part of your life. Ive been on everything you can think of brother and ive never been diagnosed w anything. Quitting alcohol was unusually hard for me i only did it 3 years dont know why but always till black out drunk. Before that was pills and coke did that cold turkey. I know about those rabbit holes man the drs can make it stop w enough time and the right recipe
 
Aude_Aliquid_Dignu said:
it does make me wonder what percent of TRT males are chasing the wrong dragon’s tai
I certainly have considered the impact of test on all of this, but my conclusion is that in my case, the impact is solely positive. That is, I think I would be worse without it.
 
herrubermensch said:
after 57 years of drinking like a fish, I’ve given it up,
Give it up permanently. Alcohol is a train wreck. Andrew huberman talked about how even an extremely small amount fucks with our Neurochemical makeup. Increases anxiety depression etc. there is genuinely no singular benefit to alcohol.

Proud of you for doing what you need to!
 
Abstaining from alcohol was/is very well the smartest thing I’ve done in my life.

Every so often I’ll get an urge for a cold beer or shot of a good whiskey…but it fades quickly.
 
You say nothing good from it. Week I counter it has made many of Tttactuve women think I was a good idea for an evening haha
 
I know this is not a laughing matter but on more than one occasion I’ve officially bequeathed all my alcohol to the young college grads at work. I tell them I’ve had more than my share and now it’s a matter of “quality of life” for me.
 
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