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Boys...this won't turn out too well. Your thoughts?

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I’m sure the many vets on this board will be able to provide a better viewpoint of this, but here is mine as a civilian that has not served. As long as they can do the job and meet the training requirements, I wouldn’t have any issue. HOWEVER, if this results in some watered down process this will be a disaster. I’m already hesitant with women being thrown into full out war, almost exclusively from a basic biology standpoint, as men in general are much bigger and stronger. I would ideally only want to see the absolute best of the best to handle war situations regardless of all the various categories the media likes to bucket them into. Where physical strength is concerned, my understanding is there are many others roles they could have, particularly if they are unable to meet the physical requirements. Just like careers, I strongly believe the positions should be filled according to the best candidate that have the skills required, and not based on race or gender.
 
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There are so many reasons to not allow this. But let’s start with one I think most can agree on. What happens when they are in battle and away from their hormones. Or say they don’t make it back in time for whatever reasons. If they can’t get their hormones on time they will become a mess emotionally and a liability to themselves and those around them. Or say the enemy captures them and finds out he is a she or the other way. Other cultures will not accept this the way western culture does. So let’s say for a starting point “their own safety”. I
 
It is not just deployments where someone is away from their usual standard of living. In garrison you have frequent field training where you don’t have access to hormones nor should the military try to accommodate you for that reason. Trans are already more prone to stress, depression, and anxiety and the military lifestyle will only exacerbate the issue.
Even if one can do the job, so can a normal male or female so why even bother taking the risk investing tax payer dollars into their training.
 
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I can’t speak to serving with transgender people as I did not serve. Much respect and gratitude to those of you who did. I will say that the idea of my tax dollars paying for surgery is pretty irritating. I just assume some people will sign up just for the surgery with little interest in actually serving.
 
The suicide rate like @SidTheSlothh said is very high. We are talking between 30 to 40% have attempted it. With that being said, even if the ban is lifted it doesn’t mean they make it, just means they can try. They still have to prove competency.
 
Just curious why the other half of my post was removed. It is a fact and not my opinion that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. It was labeled a mental disorder by the medical community for decades until the World Health Organization removed the word “disorder” from diagnosis because the term was offensive and stigmatizing. They euphemized the diagnosis but that doesn’t change what it is which is a mental disorder. It is still listed under a disorder by the American Psychiatric Association.
 
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I removed it because the way you speak about it I don’t consider it ok for a post on ugmuscle. I suffer from mental illness does that mean that im not good enough?
 
It means you are not qualified for military service, most mental disorders are a disqualification. Doesn’t mean you are not a good person or good enough. The same applies to someone missing two legs, doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough just means they aren’t qualified for service.
 
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So then why go so hard against mental illness

You really believe what you wrote isn’t bashing against a possible member.

What if I told you im trans? @SidTheSlothh
 
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Where in my post did I go hard on those with mental illnesses? I simply stated they are not qualified for military service. I am unsure how me saying they don’t meet the eligibility criteria somehow means I’m coming across as I have some type of animus towards trans folk.
 
You truly believe that this is ok to post

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. People with mental illnesses have no place in the armed forces. Studies show transgenders are more likely to commit suicide and suffer from other psychological issues significantly more than someone not suffering from gender dysphoria
 
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