Fighting alcohol and urges with Declinol

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Rusty

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Rusty here! As most of my brothers and sister her on UGM know I am an alcoholic and ex drug addict. Although I have had much success over the past several years with drug addiction I have still struggled with alcoholism. My issue has mostly consisted of being sober for usually around two to six months then a big fall. Each time the falls get bigger and bigger. It is a day to day battle in which I can say no to the urges but it’s a white knuckle battle at times. Then over a period of a couple months something happens and I fall big usually for around a week.

My wife was sharing her story with a Mexican lady at work. The lady told my wife about Declinol and how her husband had struggled for years but once he took Declinol for a few months the desire to get drunk went away. My wife ordered a months supply of the extra strength stuff without my knowledge. Once she told me about it and the cost of $300 per month I didn’t object as I’ll spend that much on AAS yet alcohol completely interrupts my cycles so to complain about cost would be stupid. Plus getting rid of my dependence on alcohol is much more important then getting swole!!!

It is a supplement that is not approved by the FDA. She got it from Canada!! It takes up to 90 days of taking the pills to get the full affect. While waiting they have a spray that I spray under my tongue if I get an urge to drink. I cannot speak for the pills yet but the spray definitely works. It is almost immediate!! When I spray Declinol under my tongue the urge literally disappears. I can feel something happening chemically in my brain almost like an emotional response of calmness and the anxious thoughts of going to the store to buy a drink just go away and fast!!!

One shouldn’t stay on Declinol for life and should get plugged into a group beit AA or some other AODA group. Faith based groups seem to have the most success!! Declinol can be used for as long as it takes to get past the “hump “. For me I am going to shoot for 6 months. And keep a bottle of the spray handy for at least a year in case something triggers a sudden urge. As for group that will have to be for life. I don’t see any way around that. I will update how Declinol is working for me over time.

Here is a copy and paste from a study done on Declinol.

Declinol, a Complex Containing Kudzu, Bitter Herbs (Gentian, Tangerine Peel) and Bupleurum, Significantly Reduced Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT) Scores in Moderate to Heavy Drinkers: A Pilot Study​

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It is well established that inherited human aldehyde dehydrogenase 2 (ALDH-2) deficiency reduces the risk for alcoholism. Kudzu plants and extracts have been used for 1,000 years in traditional Chinese medicine to treat alcoholism. Kudzu contains daidzin, which inhibits ALDH-2 and suppresses heavy drinking in rodents. Decreased drinking due to ALDH-2 inhibition is attributed to aversive properties of acetaldehyde accumulated during alcohol consumption. However not all of the anti-alcohol properties of diadzin are due to inhibition of ALDH-2. This is in agreement with our earlier work showing significant interaction effects of both pyrozole (ALDH-2 inhibitor) and methyl-pyrozole (non-inhibitor) and ethanol’s depressant effects. Moreover, it has been suggested that selective ALDH 2 inhibitors reduce craving for alcohol by increasing dopamine in the nucleus accumbens (NAc). In addition there is significant evidence related to the role of the genetics of bitter receptors (TAS2R) and its stimulation as an aversive mechanism against alcohol intake. The inclusion of bitters such as Gentian & Tangerine Peel in Declinol provides stimulation of gut TAS2R receptors which is potentially synergistic with the effects of Kudzu. Finally the addition of Radix Bupleuri in the Declinol formula may have some protective benefits not only in terms of ethanol induced liver toxicity but neurochemical actions involving endorphins, dopamine and epinephrine. With this information as a rationale, we report herein that this combination significantly reduced Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT) scores administered to ten heavy drinkers (M=8, F=2; 43.2 ± 14.6 years) attending a recovery program. Specifically, from the pre-post comparison of the AUD scores, it was found that the score of every participant decreased after the intervention which ranged from 1 to 31. The decrease in the scores was found to be statistically significant with the p-value of 0.00298 (two-sided paired test; p-value = 0.00149 for one-sided test). Albeit this being a small pilot, we are encouraged about these significant results, and caution any interpretation until larger controlled studies are executed.

@Bigmurph is this copy and paste ok or should I edit it and post the link?

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@Rusty the copy and paste is perfect and this is a great post. Not only for you personally but in general for anyone reading this having a hard time with alcohol.
Your completely right I read the science it releases dopamine if you’re on nandrolone stop now brother because I believe that you will have compound interactions. I believe that it could cause your progesterone to spike. Im not positive but caber and the others that we take while running nor19 compounds are dopamine intaginists and this medication effects your dopamine.

I believe that this stuff can definitely work this is exactly how I got clean from opiates by using a compound that took away urge and sickness.
Why the FDA hasn’t approved this is ridiculous it has to be the alcohol lobby keeping things like this away and I never understood why they have compounds to help you detox and get clean from everything nowadays except alcohol.

Im really happy that your wife took this step on her own she really cares about you brother.
Tell her I said thanks for helping out one of my brothers please honestly 🙏

I look forward to hearing back more about this product a couple weeks out im honestly really curious about the science and if it works and I will start spreading the word about this if it really works because soooo many struggle with alcohol and there needs to be an option like this available to everyone who wants it YEAH IM TALKING TO YOU FDA.
 
Ya there is an article I read and it seems most guys on AAS have a past or current struggles with addiction. I think it’s because we have the all or nothing mentality. Which is why we get injured so often 😂!! But I believe there are probably a lot of guys and gals on UGM current or future that may be able to use this if it works. I’ll be the case study!!!
 
Loitering. Hahaha. Ya. I am very happy with the chemical help this has given so far. And not surprised that we don’t have it available on the shelves of our pharmacies.
 
Ahhhhh. You said that… duhhh. Bout right you can’t get it here
 
After a little research it seems there is a company called Avantcare that has made a lot of trouble for Declinol in Federal courts. Avantcare is the mother company for Sobrexa which is suppose to also help stop urges to drink. However I cannot find much out about Sobrexa on the internet. It may not yet be approved by the FDA.

ITS ALL ABOUT THE FUCKING MONEY!!! So many people struggling and federal court gonna cater to the bigger Pharma company. Big surprise there.

The spray is available on Amazon but why buy from Amazon when you can get it directly from the source.
 
I bet if you do enough research and dig through the shell companies there’s probably a non profit set up by the alcohol companies in the usa.

I can almost guarantee that if the medication is being blocked its not big pharma its the alcohol companies @Rusty
 
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