Just venting not important

[Cluster]

5hrs sleep in the last 48 sooo just talkin…past two years ive gotten 3 tough diagnoses that have put me in front of some real class acts as far as the medical field goes, sorry if yohr in the field im sure you’re the only good 1s if your on here lol so latest study ive got to do is another sleep study all night then continue the next day taking supervised naps… all this shit to get the governments approval to give me a script of some holy shit strong sleep pills. Got a call from the Dr’s nurse and was clearing up the details when i asked hey seriously what am i gonna do about smoking? She says later when she called back the dr. Says i need to quit bc that might be my problem lol i say to her does she know ive smoked for 20 yrs and only had accute insomnia for 4 months wtf then she asked do we need to call you in a patch? I say why no i can buy my own. So i ask yall cause im out in the literal field is there any damn differences between nicotine in cigs cigars patches vapes hookas? I mean i can do it just damn it pisses me off how dumb they are sometimes. And i myself may of come in on the turnip truck but i was driving that mofo. Oh yeah she also asks me hey do you think you might not need much sleep wth?
Fellas now she has me wearin a cpap for the couple hrs i do sleep but now wants me to wear this while im awake at night? So i sit here w this damn thing on lookin like an iron lung from 10p to 4a and keep in mind i have no sleep apnea.
Im desperate for sleep or i woulda told her to suck it by now but man our selection of drs. Suck

Yall got any good dr stories?

 

[Poppy]

Try the nicotine lozenges. The patches didn’t work for me. I was a dipper.

Hurricane florence reset my sleep pattern…prior to that it was close to what your experiencing.

I was up 48 hours straight and started sleeping normal after that.

 

[Cluster]

Yeah brother after you told me that w the hurricane so i tried it but no good like tonight with just a couple hrs. Ill sleep 2 and a half and feel awesome for a few.

How much did you dip

 

[NeuroRN]

So i ask yall cause im out in the literal field is there any damn differences between nicotine in cigs cigars patches vapes hookas?

One is nicotine. The other is tobacco. One is in the top leading causes of death in the known world… the other isn’t.
One is full of cancer causing agents, chemicals that lead to copd, emphysema, chronic bronchitis, peripheral vascular disease, increases the risk of stroke and heart attack…. And the other is just nicotine.

Did she miss the point? Yep. Is her ancillary point wrong? No. Why not clean up your actual health as much as possible since you’ve had three rough diagnosis in the last year? There’s no body system that stand alone. One has a role in everything else. And vice versa.

Alternative view point: do you know how often medical professionals beat their heads through the fucking wall over telling people how to make basic changes to stop chronic disease and nothing changes? Every. God. Damn. Day. You know how jaded that makes you? Do you know how frustrating and infuriating it is to ask someone to take steps to improve their overall health while traveling down the road to help with their other problems and they can’t see the forest for the trees?

Are there dumb doctors? Yup. Are some of them bad? I’m the first one to say so. I’m sorry your frustrated. I know you want to sleep.

To make it clear I’m not mad about what you said. You’re only seeing this from your limited perspective. Have you spent hours researching what might be happening? Eliminated things (food, drugs, drinks, etc) to see what might cause a change? You paint the picture that the doctor doesn’t know everything so they suck. They don’t. They won’t. And they actually have to prove to governing bodies that they have crossed xyz off the list before they jump to certain things.

Stop fucking smoking. Separate from your rant. If you’re still using tobacco you’re literally choosing cancer or chronic disease.

 

[Poppy]

3 cans a day for about 35 years

 

[Cluster]

Damn brother howd you quit

 

[Cluster]

Yep i was worried you might get offended sorry brother

 

[NeuroRN]

No no. Not offended. I’m not mad. The system sucks. It sucks diesel donkey dick.

I’m saying try see it from their viewpoint.

And stop smoking. I’m def saying stop smoking.

 

[Poppy]

Nicotine lozenges and a snow storm down here and $5k worth of dental work and got my head right.

 

[NeuroRN]

I also see the VERY worst side of this. Ppl have made choices that land them in the ICU and are Almost dead from their own doing… then get mad when we can’t pull a solution out of our ass or can’t immediately fix shit.

I’m not mad at all. Not offended. I’m trying to paint a clear picture from the other side.

 

[Cluster]

I know brother it just hit me today when i told her 20 years of it. And yes the system is what i meant. Everyone in my family is in the medical field except me so ive always grown up at the supper table hearing the stories

Also my grandfather was my dr. My whole life and man talk about old school he was incredible! Practiced 52years

 

[Cluster]

But what frustrates the situation is the system i need one drug but she has do jump through all these hoops to write it for me bc of the government. Too many pill heads i guess

 

[NeuroRN]

I will always be the one yelling loudest that the system sucks. And shit. When a doc sucks I tell them to their face. So don’t ever worry about offending me.

But given the pandemic and realizing the gen pop has no idea what we actually deal with, I try to paint the picture from our end.

SO I do apologize if that came across as mad at you.

But. For real. Get some lozenges. Or nicotine pouches. They sell them at most gas stations Now. Zyn. On. A couple other brands. No tobacco.

 

[NeuroRN]

Oh. Way too many fucking junkies. A small percentage always ruins it for those seeking a positive thing. Look at what happened with roids.

 

[Cluster]

Brother for you i promise to give it a go but im kinda thinking starting with a vape bc i smoke alot right now, and those have to be better than Marlboro i would think,

 

[Cluster]

Exactly! I could tell by the way i had to sign papers and piss tested for me to get anything that it would be game over for her to help me if i even was on regular trt bc its got such a bad rap

 

[Cluster]

And after all that this is where i got my answers, lol from my online buddies do gear, you gotta admit thats damn good off label doctoring

 

[Kad1]

The lozenges worked for my captain

 

[Cluster]

Yeah but just my thinking here if i could get off the psychological part of the taste and burn i feel like i could get over the withdrawal part. But i gotta say thats still a bad mfr to pull it off

 

[NeuroRN]

You are a bad MFER. be the fucking grim reaper if you have to. Vaping I don’t know much about other than pop corn lung.

When I quit dipping I used nicotine lozenge and Rocky Mountain snuff- no tobacco or nicotine. Just a way to get the feeling of the dip. Then cut both down and out.

There’s got to be plenty of diff quit aides out there.