Shit my joints in my hips, knees elbows, fingers and other random joints have been killin me. From what I was reading it can be caused by the cartilage repairing and regrowing and water retention. I noticed it will start to go away after the two days off but return shortly after I start back up. Npp isn’t even countering the effects. I may have to take a week off and see how that treats me. I’m running this one Q blue and white. I take 5 units of the blue and put it in the white bottle instead of using Bacteriostatic Water, I use one unit day. This is a potent mix.