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Power, Straining, When To Cash It In

Poppy

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Power, Straining, When To Cash It In

The formula for power is: power = work/time. That translates to a person bench pressing 500 pounds in 5 seconds has a power rating of 100 vs a 500 pound bench press in 1 second which would have a power rating of 500. That is a very simplified version and can get very complicated if you’re calculating machinery, electricity etc. My point being is; power lifters are applying maximum force (force = mass x acceleration) to their primary training movements to get the most power regardless of weight used.

One type of training is the dynamic method. Which is applying maximum force as fast as possible to a sub-maximal weight. For instance, a 500 pound bencher using fifty percent of his max would still be applying 500 pounds of force to 250 pounds with absolute speed being the focus. This is just one method of training and there are plenty of success stories as well as others that it didn’t work for.

To be a successful powerlifter a lifter needs to learn to strain. If you find yourself at a powerlifting meet with some of the “ranked” lifters, pay attention to their face (redness, veins) and their limbs shaking. A great example of this is Stan Efferding (one of my favorites) when he broke the 275 raw total in 2013. There is great video footage of all three lifts. His “straining” is very evident. Any Worlds Strongest Man footage will show the same thing.

There’s plenty of footage of hard to look at injuries. I’m of the opinion that…that’s one of the things that separates the upper tier lifters from others. They will strain until the weight goes up, there body collapses or worst case, something breaks/tears in their body.

I’ve said all that to say this: in my opinion there IS a time to cash it in. Strength, speed, power, etc. is all relative. One person’s max strength may be another’s out of shape strength. I’m very sure Bill “Kaz” (another favorite) still trains but doesn’t use any where near the load he used to…although his training loads today are probably still out of reach for most. Myself, counting months to my 60th birthday, I believe I’m taking the road to cashing it in. My “straining” days are over. I will shutdown a lift if something doesn’t feel right. I will kind of push the envelope and develop some new (age appropriate) pr’s but all the old pr’s are just that…OLD… ancient history. I don’t have anymore “aw crap I shouldn’t have attempted that” stuff left.

I purposefully left out the OLY lifters and bodybuilders. Both sports are great (they got some crazy strong and yoked dudes)and I do follow them BUT my knowledge is very limited and would be from a spectator point of view.
 
Great post brother injuries scare all of us but I read so much I believe because of our common mentality people push through or try to mask it saving yourself from injuries is probably the best thing we can do as weight lifters in any discipline.
 
I’ve been a power lifter for years. I’ve always noticed that strain as a 30 yo and today are completely different. Not that the desire isn’t there, but as we age the strain gauge lessens. Also what I ate as a power lifter then if I did now I would be big as a house. No matter how much enhancement you use, the body just gets weaker. (Injuries increase, recovery time increases, bodies ability to process food deteriorates) you just have to realize as an older lifter it’s about lifestyle change. That’s the hardest part. No matter what I do to enhance my chemical structure I will never bench what I did at 30. If you don’t think that’s true, show me one power lifter over 55 with world records. Or BB titles. I hope to be lifting at 75. And be jackked. But once again it will be a case by case basis. Your body has major changes ever decade. Compare 10 to 20 to 30 and so on. Each decade brings more or less to the table. And that’s every aspect. The problem is getting over the mental attitude. So long I’ve been geared to lift heavy things. But I know I must adjust my metal outlook every decade. 😉
 
Do you ever have a moment of weakness where you want to throw another wheel on the bar when you shouldn’t?

I get those occasionally but find that as i age I’m making better decisions…finally
 
This one hits close to home. I was lucky enough playing football and hockey growing up that my worst injury in contact sports was a concussion… all my catastrophic structural or muscular/tendon injuries came from track and powerlifting… I’ve experienced some injuries, partial rupture of the biceps tendon, ruptured hamstring, rotator cuff, torn ACL, and hip replacement… and I’ve seen witnessed some really bad ones in person at meets and training, ruptured quad tendons when a guy has 1000 lbs on his back, spiral fractures of the humerus during a bench attempt…
often times I find myself in the gym, watching younger guys lift, and then the adrenaline and testosterone start flowing and I find myself saying “I’ve still got just enough stupid left in my tank to show this fucking punk something awesome”, and at this current moment I don’t have the willpower or the want, to stop myself… the push is still there, the body is just slowly failing me.
 
I do sometimes. But recently I “felt” good and blew out my knee. So that was the real wake up call. I’m going to get it repaired in oct/dec. it’s riding season now. 😂. I wear a brace and have limited leg workout now. (With brace, machines only) I still will go do max lifts. But it’s at about 75-80% of my old days.
 
That’s along wait for surgery are you holding off or are they just that busy?
Man every time I hear about your knee I think about mine and how it sucks. I really hope that your surgery goes really well.
 
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Good stuff @Poppy . All is very true as a former competitor in oly, power and bodybuilding everything is relative and definitely Diminish with age. Power production so your ability to move the bar fast which is vital in oly really fades as you get older. I cannot fly under the bar like I used to. Even being enhanced now my strength is not even close to where it was in my late 20’s, early 30’s. At a body weight of 181 in Comp I could bench 435 and squat 600. Now at 205-210 I can only bench maybe 365 on a good day and squat 485. I’ve definitely had to change my mindset towards training nor that I am approaching 50. I definitely listen to my body more and do my best to fight my ego and curtail training. When I’m in shape now I actually think I look better now then 20 years ago but who k owe how long that’ll last
 
@Kad1 @JB_rD81 @TBU … and @Bigmurph (says he’s 40 but I don’t believe it).

Y’all have came back with exactly what I was pondering. We all know our bodies age and fail. No way around that… it’s the alpha male competitor mentality that (I believe) we all struggle with to a point.
 
In a sense, I got lucky: When I was hitting it hard in my late 30s and early 40s after extricating myself from an unhappy 20-year marriage, I ended up ripping rotator cuffs in both shoulders, one that was fixable and fixed; the other is still radically fucked up. What this means is my ability to balance free weights, DBs in particular, is limited. So it forced me into doing higher reps with lower weights, losing weight, and focusing more on how I feel and look than how much power I have.

And yes, @Poppy, there are days when I’m feeling it big time and I want to try for 405 on squats after repping 365 and feel like (for me) a monster. But my memory of injuries holds me back and makes me do work sets with the lower weights, reciting to myself: “It’s not the power that matters, it’s how you look and feel. Oh and BTW, you already are stronger than 75% of the guys your age anyway, so don’t be an idiot.” That generally works, but its a constant temptation I have to resist.
 
Holding off. Where I’m at riding season is short enough the way it is and I don’t want to be gimped up during the summer. So I told the doc I’d be back in oct/nov. he was like cool. I’d wait to if I could. 😂. Just take a lot of Aleve and wear this full brace on my knee. It sucks. But I can ride. 😉
 
Is aleve acetaminophen or ibuprofen?

I would definitely use 800mg ibuprofen so that the acetaminophen doesn’t eat up your liver. I imagine it hurts while you ride. I know that the otc only does so much.
 
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