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My aspect of the question was because of the non pros… You start throwing out that a pro uses 3,000 per week you’re going to get an idiot that thinks oh I’ll just take half of that and I’ll be all right. Socon and so forth. Throwing out numbers like that takes away from the safety of the supposed individuals this board and other boards are trying to protect. In other words I think dude was wrong for stating that.
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To answer your question… the young man was well on his way to having a great physique. Probably didn’t need all that juice. Bad idea.
Pictures of the pro’s in magazines and internet clouded his judgement. That other guy hosting in the ladies string top had it right. To be top tier… you gotta have great genetics and then work your butt off.
Pictures of the pro’s in magazines and internet clouded his judgement. That other guy hosting in the ladies string top had it right. To be top tier… you gotta have great genetics and then work your butt off.
Greg’s content used to be really good info but he has
Kind of sold out for the money. Which is alright. But he still preaches all the right stuff. He sells bcaas and will admit they are pointless but people are going to buy it so he may as well sell it. I’m subscribed to his channel but maybe watch one his videos a week now as most don’t really catch my interest anymore
Kind of sold out for the money. Which is alright. But he still preaches all the right stuff. He sells bcaas and will admit they are pointless but people are going to buy it so he may as well sell it. I’m subscribed to his channel but maybe watch one his videos a week now as most don’t really catch my interest anymore
And there you have it. When young, inexperienced, and stupid, one readily thinks “the sole difference between and me and that guy is juice!” So to the juice one goes, and by day 7, you are a water balloon, but look huge and think you’re on your way and take that as confirmation of your original hypothesis. So more juice, heavier lifting—all way too soon. Your strength grows faster than your tendons and “snap”–off you go to the surgeon, and six months later, you look worse than you did when you started and you have a scar on your shoulder and feel like a weakling.Poppy said:
And then, if you have a whit of intelligence in your head and the courage to admit you were a fucktard, you research and research and seek advice and develop an intelligent approach that will take years of hard work and pain and sacrifice to implement. And in all but the rarest of circumstances, you STILL will not look like that guy. And you have to face that fact each day you put in that hard work and feel that pain during that long process, BUT DO IT ANYWAY.
Then and only then can one look in the mirror, feel damn fucking good about how strong you are and how good you look, and be proud of the courage and determination it took to get there. It is THAT person who is mortally offended when someone says “oh, it’s just the juice.” You know better; you know intimately that the vast majority of what you accomplished had absolutely nothing to do with the juice and that in fact, juice initially set you way back.
Ask me how I know.
Absolutely. I agree and most people are shortcut oriented. They end up drawing the shortest straw, so to speak. The gym is my refuge, I love training , eating good and AAS. One or two other things too. They are related. I started bbing because I fell doing walkouts at 17. PL is a cool community. But, I have always had gym etiquette, we actually used to stay completely covered up in our T- Micheal sweats until posing practice after workout. I love the hour or two of solace and go to my training, get lost in the pump, I still pose, covid for 2 years was the only time I “was normal” with eating and training. Coming back to achieving different physique goals has been harddest ever. Ruptured my quad tendon and PCL just in a slip and fall. Ive cut back a ton in last 5 years on “supps” and ive always cycled with totally off periods. How i was taught and still makes sense, let all the long acting stuff come out and give the receptors a rest, still makes sense to me. At the end of a year, ive been off 1/3- to a bit less than 1/2 a year. But this is a few, very few of us. I love the feeling of after 2 weeks or so, when you look and feel on. 300mg of cyp, wont do it for me. Am I preaching unsafe things. Hell no, I trry to get leaner and “smaller” do real cardio. I used to have to weigh 300! It was the thing then. Those days we were thinking grams and stuffing ourselves. Lose 60 lbs in 12- 16 weeks! Then repeat. I feel so much better and everything backs that up at 215. My new “Goal” . Maybe even more. Totally agree with you thats why I would never throw out dosage or compound advice. I guess my point was I trained, eat good, take in fruit and no ETOH or other things. Its a fair tradeoff to me. But, guys that wanna look 12 weeks out and dont flow or train and eat good, add 2 grams to that and bad genetics… I dont know what im saying anymore, lol. But, you are correct. 
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