Running Proviron during pct

[Gino]

Been reading up on PCT alot before actually starting my cycle, I wanna Gather as much relevant information as possible. My main issue is seeing contradicting info on being able to use Proviron during PCT. I know it frees Test from shbg, also it stimulates LH and FSH. With that being said it wouldn’t be suppressive and could be run during PCT. If anyone has some good input I’d really appreciate it.

 

[Shock6050]

Following this one as I’m curious on everyone’s thoughts. Currently saving my Proviron for a late fall cycle, but if it will help speed up the recovery time and effectiveness for PCT that would be nice. What are you currently planning to add it to…the standard 4-5 week Nolva/Clomid regimen starting a couple weeks after last pin? Any HCG?

 

[NeuroRN]

can you provide me with some documentation for the stimulation of LH and FSH? This is new to me.

At 150 mg is suppresses both. So I’m confused to hear it would stimulate at lower doses.

 

[Gino]

I was actually thinking of running Torem and Proviron for PCT. Maybe some HCG during the end of the cycle, and slightly past the end of the cycle in-between starting my Torem.

 

[Gino]

Dang cant post links, but if you Google Proviron and LH it’s the first study

 

[NeuroRN]

Meh. 75/270 ppl showed improvement. That’s what 28%? I don’t think that’s enough to warrant use in pct.

What is torem?

if Youre going to PCT why try to reinvent the wheel?

The restart of your HPTA is not joke. I’d say nolva. Clomid. Not knowing your cycle history… you can toss in HCG

 

[Shock6050]

First one that popped up for me was a 1988 study. This one seems like it may be the one you are referring to? Regardless looks like an interesting article and definitely going to read it tomorrow. can’t access the old study without paying for it, but the 2016 one is free.

McBride JA, Coward RM. Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use. Asian J Androl. 2016;18(3):373-380.

 

[Gino]

Never ran a legit cycle, 27 years old. My dumbass tried a couple prohormones in my teens between 17-19 years old. Hdrol,epistane,sdrol. Can’t speak from experience about Torem obviously but I’ve seen some info on it being compared to Clomid without the depression.

 

[NeuroRN]

Is torem a brand name?

 

[Gino]

I’ll keep looking into it. That 2016 one is the same one I looked at.

 

[Gino]

toremifene citrate

 

[NeuroRN]

It looks like it’s more similar to nolva Than clomid. But that’s. Just brief skim. I’m not familiar. So maybe someone with more knowledge will come along. I know @Bigmurph has used proviron in pct. I have not. I personally would not. But I can’t speak to it from experience.

 

[Gino]

I stand corrected, either way I completely understand the point of not reinventing the wheel. I’m just hopeful that things may slightly improve as time passes and I had hope that Torem would be that slight improvement over the standard Nolva/Clomid.

 

[NeuroRN]

It may be! I just don’t know enough about it. It’s a mixed agonist/ antagonist which is exactly what
Nolva is. If we find no answer I’ll look tomorrow night when I’m at work if I have the time.

 

[Gino]

Thank you

 

[Bigmurph6]

Running during the beginning of pct meaning time from last shot until you start clomiphene or nolvadex.
It isn’t something that if I wre to run pct I would use all the way through nowadays with more knowledge.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I know it is usually lumped in with pct drugs on some
Sites

 

[John]

I love proviron but would never use it in pct, it’s a mild Steroid,Mesterlone.