Treating low T in someone under 30

[Kad1]

Hey guys wondering if anyone has input on testing low T without actually using test? So wondering if HCG or KP would help? Obviously not for me but a guy that works for me just got tested and he’s 300. He’s a very competitive weightlifter and has been dragging ass and O sex drive. Which is hard to believe because his girl is hot as hell. Great kid so trying to get some good info for him. My doc had no advice because he’s under 30 y/o. Appreciate any help

 

[NeuroRN]

Hcg and clomid have both been attempted in mono therapy for low T. Obviously neither as successful as actual Test, but some docs will require clomid or hcg mono therapy for a 30 year old before prescribing test.

 

[NeuroRN]

Ideally, it wouldn’t matter that he’s 30 or under
Low t should be treated by symptoms AND low numbers. Which he has both. Try to find him a more progressive doctor, bc a good trt doc should treat him.

 

[Bigmurph6]

I believe that the first gpto for alot of guys should be clomiphene. If you look into the numbers it can boost testosterone levels rather quickly. Im just not sure if it would keep the number up and for how long.

 

[Kad1]

Thanks for the advice. The docs hesitation is that he hasn’t had children yet and there is always the risk of lowering sperm counts for good. But I agree he should be treated . The other concern is drug testing before meets

 

[Optumpharma]

@Kad1 TRT therapy is becoming more and more common in the younger upcoming men and i really appreciate you getting him some information before commiting to a life of injections and hormone replacement.

Hcg has always been a favor paired with clomid. Prior to 2020 the standard practice would be 50mg of clomid and 500iu of hcg admistered 2x weekly.

But clincs that are more new age have transitioned into daily kisspeptin injections. This causes steady pulses to the testicals to contiune to work and out put sperm and testosterone vs inducing a pregnancy hormone to the male body.

I would say to start with hcg and clomid then the following month transition into kisspeptin and review blood work on both strategies to see the internal medical difference in blood work.

All the best!

 

[PNWmuscle]

Don’t know why the doc won’t help him. I’m 27, tested at 240 or so and got put on right away, insurance covers it. That’s a bummer to hear, my doc says it’s more common than everyone thinks

 

[PNWmuscle]

As far as fertility, my doc prescribed HCG to keep the boys full and functional along with my TRT

 

[Cluster]

Here’s how to bomb a test… eat shit food drink smoke stay up on caffeine for 48 plus hrs boom low t

 

[BigSwole69]

Ain’t that the damn truth.

 

[Kad1]

Thank you for this awesome advice. I’m sure you’ll be hearing from me

 

[PNWmuscle]

Pretty much was my lifestyle. Glad I’m on a better path now

 

[Optumpharma]

Will look for the email my friend and if your friend would like some medical studies I would be more than happy to provide so he can make his own informed decision.

 

[Rusty]

Sounds like my past life everyday brother.

 

[NeuroRN]

Bahaha that’s gonna bomb more test than one

 

[Anabisi]

I read your information your very articulate and your words thank you for your consistent input even if it’s not for me you’re always helping out

 

[Kad1]

Question, for someone like me that’s been in the game for over 20 years and is 47y/o is it worth still using PCT or is my body just shut down? Came off everything for a couple months last winter for SH surgery and my test was under 200 and that was after 1 month of HCG and clomid.

 

[Thunder]

I used to rub a couple out before hand… lol

 

[Matteon]

Has there been any attempt by the doc to establish a cause for the low T? I wouldn’t start on any kind of exogenous compound without ruling out causes that can be treated non chemically, though I’m not a doc and am not that knowledgeable in the treatment of low testosterone admittedly.

 

[NeuroRN]

Without testicular trauma it’s often difficult to establish a singular cause. More interestingly, the average testosterone level in men is dropping every year. So much so that most labs have lowered the bottom end of a “normal” testosterone range.

Low T effects your actual health. Heart, brain, liver, prostate, etc. most recent studies show that retuning T to high normal range is protective of almost all vital organs. There’s steps before just straight testosterone replacement, just like there’s steps before insulin with diabetes.

The real question is, if given the opportunity to tightly control your level- why wouldn’t you?