What about the Clen De La Clen

[fitstudboi]

just curious…what is an acceptable blood pressure average and weight to consider clenbuterol?..just curious if there is an answer or info to help secure a yay or nay on the idea.

 

[SemperFi]

Not a question that has a definitive answer. Personally I think it is going to be too individually based. Like me… I get a big heart rate increase and a slight body temp increase even from a small dose. The thing that kills me the most is the jaw and neck cramps even with taurine, magnesium and potassium supps to combat them.

The late night foot cramps are not fun… Wife would just laugh as I flew out of bed.

 

[fitstudboi]

geeze sound like i will be giving away another bottle!

 

[SemperFi]

Don’t throw it out on my account. See what others have to say.

 

[MBTJR1980]

OMGGG! The cramps are the friggin worst man!

 

[Fitraver]

I greatly prefer albuterol.

 

[MBTJR1980]

Never tried albuterol might have to next time i need to cut

 

[fitstudboi]

well all i can say is you are awesome! you with your str8 forward experience and knowlegde always help sempefi things

i mean simplify!..heeey…waaait…i like that…has a ring to it

 

[SemperFi]

I always preferred T3 over stims but you need to really know the risks and be responsible. Just as with steroids T3 requires a proper PCT.

 

[Fitraver]

Being on actual t3/t4 for life cuz of a fucked thyroid I am always SO cautious about people wanting to use them and make sure they realize how easy t is to fuck up your natty and never get it back. Then you’re fuckin stuck taking MONTHS figuring out your levels and proper dose. That said t def will do the trick.

 

[fitstudboi]

wait…so cutters like clen and albuterol can cause or increase thyroid issues?

my doc keeps giving my low dose thyroid meds he started at 50…never told him i am not taking…then he increased to 75…and he was trying to go to 100 cus my thyroid he thought was not responding

i am just freaked as hell to be on a med for life…as i never needed any meds before…this whole mess started from md being obese…so i thought once i can get into to 180s since uts such a low dose there is hope for my thyroid to bounce back

or is this not so?

i feel i am in a great place for these confusions i have because if anyone would know it would be you guys here…

 

[Fitraver]

No t3/t4 mess with your thyroid production.

 

[fitstudboi]

oh ok

 

[MBTJR1980]

Yeah man what about really dieting hard and doing lots of cardio to get where you need to be?! Stay away from thyroid drugs and stims are means to an end but can have lots of unpleasant sides especially to the heart which is most important

 

[fitstudboi]

yes…i will just tough out my way…i will get there…just freaking out on a slow point and just feel like i am overwhelmed and could just lay in bed all day and stare at the ceiling in confusion…but i do drag myself up and throw myself in my gym and start something and then i am on it. i am seeing progress…but just way too slow it seems but as @SemperFi said a bit ago…it took years of bad habbits to develop a bad bod…it will take time to get it right…do the time …you are right on @MBTJR1980

my core self tells me just these advices…but my anxiousness convinces me of a quicker way and to see about it…but the quicker ways will ruin soo many things for sure…better to do the time…

so …i am reset…

 

[Bigmurph6]

Start off light try albuterol see how you react then try ephedrine hcl like an eca stack see how your body reacts then if you want to go as far as clen then start low with a very legitimate source its measured in mcg. Very small amounts and a little to much could put you in a bad spot coming from a careless src.

 

[MBTJR1980]

Glad i could help my bro do the time without putting extra stress on your system you will thank me down the road!

 

[fitstudboi]

i would really need advice on the least…safest recomended dosage to try till i shed about 10 to 15 lbs…even 10 lbs i would be ok with…then. stop for a while then try again…could you please pm me a source you recommend that measures in your recommendations as well as a local source?..i do have clen but i got it from a source i met at a nye function and i also got this stim ftom them… vicane awesome stuff i swear by it…but uar it sparingly…but boy do i get a feel good from it …i sent him invite twice not sure if they got it…they are awesome people and very professional and fast deliv. they are local.

but please if could please…my mail box have been acting up so it appears i can respond…but i am unsuccessful it seems sending new messages and there is a green 2 stuck on my box and i checked every message and reload and still been there a few weeks now

 

[MBTJR1980]

Great advice Bigmurph!!

 

[fitstudboi]

a combination of ideas work great. but naturally less is more and always best to keep it simple and safe…as natural as possible less u want that extra beastly edge and dont mind the some consiquence or risks.