What about the Clen De La Clen

[Fitraver]

Check your wire bro @Bigmurph

 

[MBTJR1980]

For myself doing this shit for so long i have to take more than average joe but my recommendation if i could do it all over again would be to do the least amount possible to get the most results brotha

 

[SemperFi]

An ECA stack is a great starting point. Another idea is to adjust your dietary choices. Not necessarily total calories.

 

[SemperFi]

@MBTJR1980 that is the best advice I have ever heard online… Truth is truth and does not change. Our belief needs to be aligned with the truth.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Click the drop down then click messages.
Click the other drop down and check all the different groups. You probably have messages hidden in a group message like ugmain or ug base

 

[MBTJR1980]

Appreciate that my man! We have a responsibility to pass along our years of experience and knowledge we have gained through trial and error.
I have a ton of respect for your outlook on life and the game we play.

 

[Bigmurph6]

I couldn’t agree more that using diet and cardio over clen ephed or albuterol is a much better choice for health and just in general.
There actually all very harsh compounds on the heart and nervous system

 

[fitstudboi]

ok will look

 

[fitstudboi]

wohoo! found them …thanks for the help

 

[PHD]

Just reading this it seems to me you’re not even in prep just wanting to lose weight? Am I correct? If you are just dieting (not contest prep) why would you want Clen? Like someone else said follow a proper diet and cardio program.

 

[SemperFi]

@PHD for the same reason we use steroids… because we see what they will do for other people and want the same for ourselves.

 

[fitstudboi]

well i am looking for that extra boost to burn off excess fat to catch up on my goal as well to get my muscles to pop more…like to use the stuff to put me 15 lvs less and closer to my goal…i am not…just trying to loose weight but i have been building as well…my goal is to look simular to @Fitraver…i beleive it could both be done at the same time…loose weight and build lean muscle…while many say…looose all the weight first then do muscles…i have shown so far both can be done…but it requires great focus…scheduling…rest and diet…it is a slower process and much easier to hit a dead zone where it seems things are crawling…and mentally loose thd drive which can cause slip back…so i figured at that point a boost would help keep me motivated and reensure things are movin even though i know its because of clen boost…for example…but i know…if i can get that quick boost to drop 15 of the stubborn lbs…put me closer to 200. i would be able to handle it from there. and because i would like so much what i see and shows my vision is nearly attained…for this stage of my little game…i will be very motivated…if any of this makes sense…just how my mind works…i am in a lul…i just anxious to look like a super hero…

right now i feel like a little tyke amogst super heros making you guys go…oh boy…

 

[fitstudboi]

exactly you know me soooo well!

 

[Fitraver]

Damn bro!! Honored to be your goal that’s too kind of you.

 

[fitstudboi]

i used all them words to get around saying that there you go semperfiing things as usual

 

[SemperFi]

semperfiing

Dig it!!!

 

[SemperFi]

right now i feel like a little tyke amogst super heros making you guys go

You know what I have learned @fitstudboi? Never compare myself to anybody… EVER! And never judge someone on how I look… EVER!

Strive to be the best ‘you’ you can be and forget the comparisons.

IRON SHARPENS IRON

 

[fitstudboi]

well its call raising the bar as i see it…u know step up. see i will get no where in the world i am in now with buddies that love food and all the wrong things and ok with being overweight…where as i come from an athletic background and a competitive arena in a sence…injury landed me on a totally different path thus far which introduced me to a world of people that dont share much of my drive and interests…so here i am…i like it…so i am in a world here…that challenges me to become who and how i once was and need to be again especially because of my injuries…solid supportive muscles and tendons around an injured joint or disk makes a world of difference in healing and or being more able and better mobility and lessen pain and discomfort…my muscles were atrophying fast and i was in pain 24 7…some times i thought i had cancer in my bones the pain was resignating…i was on pills 3 periods a day…i was fast approaching a option to seek disability…now…i only take as precaution when heavy loaded day and just once and i can go weeks without taking any pain meds currently

but i knew better…i knew the power of the body and how awesom the ballance between weight and muscular denity is

and what better place to be for me to step up and keep on it because if i wasnt here…

i would have fallen off a while ago…

so. i compare myself to examples of hard work and what i need to do to get where i desire to be…and to remind me to stay focus and keep at it…

 

[MBTJR1980]

Nicely said my man!