If I would of got into the scene that was going then, I wouldn’t be here. And all bodybuilders. I was just a couple years too young, but I was always “brought along” it was like you don’t wanna do this as they all took Nubain before training and a couple years later things got worse with the after show parties and GHB. More often than not these were just local BBers having after parties after the Mr. Ohio or something, there was still fitness back then but no bikini, wellness. It was men and women bodybuilding and fitness routines. Off the subject, I’ve been going back and forth watching this Vigorous Steve guy. He goes over things that his subscribers or whatever want to hear about. He has some real interesting stuff about carrier oils, dosages, different medications. It’s a different take from others.