30 year old bodybuilder from Pittsburgh

[Poppy]

Credit: I’m on telmisartan on @NeuroRN recommendation.

 

[NeuroRN]

You’re on telmisartan bc you’re a smart man.

 

[Poppy]

I’m smart enough to heed advice from you and not run off playing roulette with my life.

 

[Poppy]

And lots and lots of reading/studying over the years.

 

[NeuroRN]

Haha okay okay. I concede.

 

[Dirtnasty]

That teli seems to be helping me

 

[mattlifts92]

I get about 15+ grams a day through food, and take 5g oat bran tabs

 

[mattlifts92]

No issues, in the beginning some mild sexual issues but they went away. Bit of insomnia from melatonin inhibition, but a Benadryl and a melatonin helps with that. Carvedilol is the only thing that’s been successful in bringing my pressure down, Losartan+hctz alone wasn’t cutting it

 

[JLee]

Welcome to UGM

 

[mattlifts92]

As soon as I get my CPAP for my apnea, my BP and high hematocrit (I know some of which is directly caused by the aas and will still be elevated) should start to resolve. If it does, I’ll ask for telmisartan for overall cardiovascular/cancer/oxidative stress protection. Also going to use nac and ala for glutathione production

 

[Ominous]

Welcome to the UGMuscle

 

[Jonny]

Welcome

 

[NeuroRN]

I’ll ask for telmisartan for overall cardiovascular/cancer/oxidative stress protection

Telmisartan will help with the problems caused by RASS system.

Glutathione will protect from oxidative stress, liver support, lipid health.

 

[mattlifts92]

By that model, wouldnt you need an ARB and an ace inhibitor? Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but it looks like even with angiotensin receptor blockade, the same downstream outcomes occur through ace conversion

 

[NeuroRN]

Nope. Just an arb. Angiotensin II is the problem child for us. The angiotensin receptor blocker will keep all those ugly consequences at bay.

 

[mattlifts92]

Is Losartan as effective as telmisartan? I need to blood pressure lowering effects anyways if that’s the only problem

 

[NeuroRN]

Losartan is more effective at lowering BP than telmisartan.

 

[mattlifts92]

So Losartan will provide the same protective benefits as telmisartan

 

[NeuroRN]

Yes. Absolutely.

The only reasons I say telmisartan is ideal for enhanced lifters is it gives us the protection we seek, it only slightly effects blood pressure, and it has a 20 hour half life.

If you need the BP lowering effects of an ARB then losartan is a better choice.

 

[Poppy]

Is that you in your avatar?