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Cruise after cyxle

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Blast and cruise is very much a bro term. It’s never coming off test or doing a pct.

Blast and cruise:
Blast- cycle, x amount of weeks at increased dose.
Cruise- most likely an elevated TRT dose.

TRT and cycle:
Cycle- blast, x amount of weeks at increased dose.
TRT- dosage verified my labs to elevate your numbers to normal physiological levels.

The only reason I differentiate is Bc we had a long discussion one day about it.

I am personally on a cruise, at 312mg a week. Which puts my levels on 1700-1800 range. So slightly above “Normal” where my trt dose at 200mg a week puts me at 1100 mg.

A cruise or trt SHOULD be test only, with low dose proviron being the only other compound I would personally allow. For a mini cycle called TRT see @herrubermensch log 😂😂
 
Thank you! So your on trt at 200 mg per week and you don’t need any estrogen blockers? And you blast to 1700-1800 and the come down from that to 1100? No hcg needed? I ask because I’m thinking of doing a cycle of test e again and was going to take hcg along side because atrophy was pretty significant last cycle (Feb) I’d like to prevent further shrinkage. And was thinking I could stick to a max of 200/wk. I was doing 250/every 3 days… and has to dose way back at beginning.

I have many low t symptoms but the poet says I’m in range at 430 and drs treat paper not the symptoms it seems…
So I’m trying to figure out the best way to do one more cycle, how to come off it and then just maintain a safe level 900-1100 after with no pct and hopefully no estrogen blockers etc…
 
My dose right now is 3 mg/kg.

If your levels were 430 you may not need 200 a week.

With trt the goal is to stay within normal physiological levels. So lab work after 6 weeks of a certain dose would be a good way to see where you stand.

I obviously cannot recommend doing “trt” without physician oversight.
 
Great discussion.

@Fifty3

My doc put me on 200mg every two weeks. That put my t levels at ~800

I’ve upped it myself after some in depth research and a reasonable conclusion. I’m on 125mg e3d. I have yet to have my levels checked at that dose. My trt doc freaks out if my levels get anywhere near 1000. I quit cold turkey for a ~month leading up to my trt labs for doc. Not ideal but it keeps my script from doc.

I still consider 125e3d a straight up trt dose.
Like @NeuroRN stated, if I have proviron and utilize it…i still consider it just trt.

Now if I add any ancillaries like tbol or primo then I’m “blasting”. That won’t be for very long. Maybe 8 weeks tops.

I have a very short list of any “extras” that I use.
 
Fifty3 said:
how to come off it and then just maintain a safe level 900-1100 after with no pct and hopefully no estrogen blockers etc…
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That’s going to be highly personalized. At your age, you can probably plan on being on trt forever.

After my little “blasts” I just throttle back to my sweet spot of 125 e3d. If I had to have an ancillary at 125mgs….I personally would drop back lower to a point of not needing anything but T.
 
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Yes my cod sack does shrink but that’s not an issue for me personally.

It kind of offsets the old man saggy balls. I end up right about “normal”
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Fifty3 said:
And you blast to 1700-1800 and the come down from that to 1100? No hcg needed?
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I’m using 312 mg a week to get my test levels to1700-1800. Not 1700 mg of test.

I use hcg once a week.
 
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No one mentioned hcg. Is that because of concern, choice or lack of need? As it seems to be the best choice to prevent shrinkage (I don’t have “tomatoes” big enough to let shrink. The growth went to the plant) besides the wife actually enjoys them. But that’s a story for another type of forum i supposed
 
I believe it’s all personal choice.

There’s almost 30 years of age difference between @NeuroRN and myself. I find that the older i get the less I tend to worry about stuff.

Keeping my eyebrows and ears trimmed takes up a lot of my time. Hahaha
 
Interesting debate. Keep in mind exactly like @NeuroRN said a bro science. I like personally starting not tooooo high for a Blast , then increase it drastically or carefully to reach my blast goal in the least amount of time. Them cruise normally.
 
Oh hell naw to the naw, a post about nut sacks. I got this.It all really boils down to individual person what matters the most is how you feel are you energetic, in good mood, horny, goal oriented, driven, beating your chest you know man shit. Then with that in mind where you feel good with no side effects. Like high bp psa livers enzymes, thick ass blood you know shit that will kill you. Find the dose that makes you, you it may be 150 it may be 300 per week then ride for 2-3 months get bloods check test, free test, estro. Adjust as needed maybe ai maybe not. I find the less shit you take the better off you are if you can reach goal with no ai good if needed still ok. I. Would rather take 150-200 mg every 4-5 days than 300 every 7 days. And don’t be scared of estro that isnt. 25. I do take hcg with my TRT. It keeps my nuts in the sack and the sack hanging. If I don’t one nut checks out then it sends a postcard from wherever the fuck it goes and the other nut says will holla. then my sack looks like an old lizard beard flapping in the wind and if I get off it’s like someone pulled the cord on a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower in my taint then clamped my prostate with a set of vise grips. Hcg rectifies that, keeps the boys full and happy and when they go off smooth as butter baby… baby butter. It also keeps my FSH and LH right inside low normal instead of totally nonexistent
 
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Just for the record, when I cruise, I do ultimately taper down to what is for me a perfect TRT dose, viz., 385mg of test cyp per week in EOD doses, which keeps me at 1800-2000ng/dl of total test and something like 7-800 of free test. BUT I DO love mast prop and refuse to give it up even when on cruise, so I end up throwing in 1-200 mg of that per week as well during a cruise. And until recently, I also would throw in 100mg of NPP per week, BUT that recently had some negative impact on my erections, so I stopped it. The upshot for me is that my body just doesn’t feel good without a fair amount of test coursing through my veins. And the mast just magnifies that and helps me control the effects of higher E2, which I generate in spades.
 
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