I always get excited for others to try it, but after they do THEY don’t seem excited, it’s not like adrol or dbol obviously,My muscles feel full on it, at the same time hard and tight, not rounded and fluffy,I’m lean it makes me look big,I feel strong as hell on it, and can keep most of what I gain,it also makes me feel like a tough guy on it, like tren gives to some people,ego booster, until around 4th week, I get tired, not lethargic like some say they get on it, but like a blah I don’t give a fuck feeling