Does estrogen lower with reduction of test?

[woodwalker1889]

No not really but need to do an updated blood panel for 250. And it was suppose to be 12.5 4x a week not 5. Still alot…but better than 5x

 

[Outlawthing]

Mast seems to be the alternative for larger AI doses I see a lot of big fellas using it with way less AI.

 

[Outlawthing]

Do your joints hurt? Do you have raging boners? Horny all the time hump a lamp post? Feel aches stiff like arthritis? Lethargic tired ? I’m curious. That’s a shit ton of ai. For that dose. Not saying it’s not needed. Have you went without it to see if you can tell a difference or you going by numbers only. Blood work is only half the battle how you feel is other half l. Ain’t there side effects of long term AI use@neuro? For every good a drug does there is a trade off somewhere. This is a shitty idea but have you ever crashed your estro on purpose to see what it feels like so you know. I’m a learn by doing guy letro enlightened me to the err of my ways. I don’t know what’s worse waiting for estro to come up after crash with aro or letro . Or the rebound or arimedex

 

[NeuroRN]

Following victor black logic, there’s no performance benefit to an AI. so might as well try mast to mitigate estro and gain some benefit from it.

 

[Jonny]

I’m no expert on the subject but my thinking is most of the issues attributed to AI are related to people crashing estrogen rather than taking an appropriate dose to control estrogen.

 

[Stretch22]

I can see a place for AIs in a cycle, but I don’t see it for trt. It’s one thing taking them a few days a week for 3 months. Taking them weekly for 10+ years of trt cannot be good. Better to lower dose/split up injections/add proviron imo

 

[Stretch22]

I’m going to try that victor black method tho and play it real conservative, basically titrate up to find highest tolerable level of test with minimal sides, then add in mast

 

[Jonny]

I agree. I will say if your estrogen is so high that you need an AI while on trt you’re probably not taking a trt dose lol

Unless you’re obese in which case you should probably lose weight.

 

[woodwalker1889]

Ive actually crashed before but its from letro due to a gyno flare up. Never had joint pain my symptoms were tiredness,low libido, dry skin.

 

[woodwalker1889]

Agreed unless underground lab is really overdosed.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I almost fucked my self with xtane did 50 thinking they were my dbols. I realized mistake and threw them up with in 20 minutes I don’t how much I adobes but it got to the perfect amount of eatro I felt the best I ever have for a day or two ahha

 

[Outlawthing]

I go off how I feel. I do check my blood but at any given point your body can be doing anything so the only way to really see it would be like bloods Ed for a month. Your estro may not be high just was at the moment they checked it now if you have lumps under your nips that’s different