You want to run an intermediate cycle? Congrats. Let’s talk.
Where did cycling come from? Why do we do it this way? I’m glad you asked. The whole concept comes from one singular study done with elderly male nursing home residents. Yes. You read that correctly. The study measured muscle mass over time on men who were not lifting weights and were given the same roughly 2000 cal nursing home food meal plans. Shockingly… the results seemed to taper off around 6-8 weeks. and thus the cycle was born THEN, the bro’s took hold and started to try and pack in as much “juice” as possible in a short amount of time… you guessed it… that showed high levels of toxicity when running orals and high dose injects. So then the deduction was made that in order to be most healthy, you must cycle on and off. Thank goodness we have access to mountains of data… even through pub med.
So what’s my alternative? again, glad you asked.
We’re all genetically unique, which means we are all going to respond differently to the various substances we play with. So how can I use these drugs to maximize my health?
Testosterone: as much as you can tolerate as a genetically unique male with no AI/DHT blocking. AI use, as well as DHT blockers have catastrophic effects on our health as we age. We keep this level the same, whatever it is. For some it may be 250mg a week, for others 500mg. We check labs every 3 months to ensure all important health markers are appropriate. Countless studies show the longer we can keep our testosterone elevelated… the better our lifelong health will be.
So why are we cycling still? Because bro science is hard to beat back, the slightest offense to the bro sensibility and the claws come out.
You still wanna cycle? :roll_eyes: okay. You’re an adult. Let’s talk about how to mitigate risk. How do we choose which AAS to take over another?
#1. All AAS accrete protein at roughly the same rate. (Boris et all 1969 study)
What this means… choose the one that works the best, you can get reliably, and is the safest.
Okay I picked. What do I do now? Watch your labs. We as enhanced atheletes suffer from quite a bit of risks. Luckily there’s a few things we can take that universally Lower that risk.
Enter sandman… jk. Enter Telmisartan. This one ancillary med mitigates risk from almost of what haunts enhanced athletes.
(If you’re worried about your telomeres, stay away from orals and highly toxic injectable’s. Telomeres are are chromatin domains at the ends of eukaryotic chromosomes that protect chromosomes from degradation and from end-to-end fusion… just in case you’re wondering cellularly what we’re talking about here. Studies show winstrol hugely effected Telemorase and cellular apoptosis.)
Glutathione is the most important antioxidant in our body. And AAS effects it’s production. Just supplement with is.
So we find our dosage. Our drugs. And our little superhero… we’re ready to cycle… just stop cycling. Suggesting that keeping your testosterone elevate with no clinical signs of organ damage, lab skewing, etc will kill you and you’re a drug abuser… seems really silly when you think about it. Most teens test levels skyrocket past the “normal limit” during puberty… and GASP. they don’t die.
How do we play this game and maximize our health?
As much test as we can handle and a unique male with out an AI or DHT Blocker. Our estrogen and DHT play other VITAL and protective roles in our body. We need them to be correlationally in sync with our elevated testosterone levels.
THEN. we add in a well researched secondary (primo/mast/ nandrolone) in low dose to extend our androgen to estrogen ratio.
Then we check labs. Often. Monitor. Often. At the first sign of stress in the body. We back off. Back down to therapeutic range and we let our body rest. If your body shows no signs of stress keep going…this actually mimics our bodies natural hormone function far more closely than cycling on and off steroids.
There is risk. Always. But you can be smart and mitigate as much as you can by following these steps.
Do your research. Pubmed. UpToDate. Look at actual studies. We live in such an incredible time where the common person can get their hands on actual clinical data. Don’t listen to the random person who is just blindly regurgitating the same tired and unsupported “facts” that they heard 25 years ago.
Be part of the pubmed squad and reject blind bad advice.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
Credit to VB for doing leg work to help us combat bro science and dumb ideas.
Where did cycling come from? Why do we do it this way? I’m glad you asked. The whole concept comes from one singular study done with elderly male nursing home residents. Yes. You read that correctly. The study measured muscle mass over time on men who were not lifting weights and were given the same roughly 2000 cal nursing home food meal plans. Shockingly… the results seemed to taper off around 6-8 weeks. and thus the cycle was born THEN, the bro’s took hold and started to try and pack in as much “juice” as possible in a short amount of time… you guessed it… that showed high levels of toxicity when running orals and high dose injects. So then the deduction was made that in order to be most healthy, you must cycle on and off. Thank goodness we have access to mountains of data… even through pub med.
So what’s my alternative? again, glad you asked.
We’re all genetically unique, which means we are all going to respond differently to the various substances we play with. So how can I use these drugs to maximize my health?
Testosterone: as much as you can tolerate as a genetically unique male with no AI/DHT blocking. AI use, as well as DHT blockers have catastrophic effects on our health as we age. We keep this level the same, whatever it is. For some it may be 250mg a week, for others 500mg. We check labs every 3 months to ensure all important health markers are appropriate. Countless studies show the longer we can keep our testosterone elevelated… the better our lifelong health will be.
So why are we cycling still? Because bro science is hard to beat back, the slightest offense to the bro sensibility and the claws come out.
You still wanna cycle? :roll_eyes: okay. You’re an adult. Let’s talk about how to mitigate risk. How do we choose which AAS to take over another?
- is option A significantly more effective than options B?
- Is option A significantly cheaper?
- Is it easier to source?
- (The big one) does it have a better safety profile?
#1. All AAS accrete protein at roughly the same rate. (Boris et all 1969 study)
What this means… choose the one that works the best, you can get reliably, and is the safest.
Okay I picked. What do I do now? Watch your labs. We as enhanced atheletes suffer from quite a bit of risks. Luckily there’s a few things we can take that universally Lower that risk.
Enter sandman… jk. Enter Telmisartan. This one ancillary med mitigates risk from almost of what haunts enhanced athletes.
(If you’re worried about your telomeres, stay away from orals and highly toxic injectable’s. Telomeres are are chromatin domains at the ends of eukaryotic chromosomes that protect chromosomes from degradation and from end-to-end fusion… just in case you’re wondering cellularly what we’re talking about here. Studies show winstrol hugely effected Telemorase and cellular apoptosis.)
Glutathione is the most important antioxidant in our body. And AAS effects it’s production. Just supplement with is.
So we find our dosage. Our drugs. And our little superhero… we’re ready to cycle… just stop cycling. Suggesting that keeping your testosterone elevate with no clinical signs of organ damage, lab skewing, etc will kill you and you’re a drug abuser… seems really silly when you think about it. Most teens test levels skyrocket past the “normal limit” during puberty… and GASP. they don’t die.
How do we play this game and maximize our health?
As much test as we can handle and a unique male with out an AI or DHT Blocker. Our estrogen and DHT play other VITAL and protective roles in our body. We need them to be correlationally in sync with our elevated testosterone levels.
THEN. we add in a well researched secondary (primo/mast/ nandrolone) in low dose to extend our androgen to estrogen ratio.
Then we check labs. Often. Monitor. Often. At the first sign of stress in the body. We back off. Back down to therapeutic range and we let our body rest. If your body shows no signs of stress keep going…this actually mimics our bodies natural hormone function far more closely than cycling on and off steroids.
There is risk. Always. But you can be smart and mitigate as much as you can by following these steps.
Do your research. Pubmed. UpToDate. Look at actual studies. We live in such an incredible time where the common person can get their hands on actual clinical data. Don’t listen to the random person who is just blindly regurgitating the same tired and unsupported “facts” that they heard 25 years ago.
Be part of the pubmed squad and reject blind bad advice.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
Credit to VB for doing leg work to help us combat bro science and dumb ideas.
