Question for those with more experience

[Wcr86]

Yea I wanted to stay between 200-250mg/ml, I just figured if I brewed 400mg I would only have to inject .5ml a week. But I may just try to go lower dose and get as much BB out as possible. Also I’m just running low trt doses while doing this very low calorie and low carb diet so I don’t lose to much muscle. I know I already have lost a bit and wanted to stop it from further losing

 

[Bigmurph6]

Sounds like you have a good plan in place.
Let us know how it works out for you.

 

[Wcr86]

Will do bud, I will have blood tests in about six weeks

 

[Wcr86]

Continuing my experiments. Brewed another 12ml with only 1.8% BA and 10% BB and miglyol 840 at 300mg/ml. It has been over 24hrs now and no crash at a room temperature of 72f

 

[Bigmurph6]

I like following along
I hope that you keep the experiments coming

 

[Wcr86]

Will do. My next I’m going to try is probably 250mg/ml with 5%bb. Also, little update on my subq pinning. This is the first time I have done subq and the pin was smooth as could be and didn’t have any discomfort for first 24hrs really. The second day I had a slight discomfort ( felt like a bruise) and minor irritation at injection site, tiny bit of swelling or raised area around injection and pink on raised area ( maybe size of a half dollar. 3rd day still there, 4th day gone and no irritation ( this was my second pin day as well, different area though)

 

[Bigmurph6]

That’s why I try to stay away from subq and go with IM

 

[Wcr86]

Yea, this is my first time doing subq, but I think I’m going to to stick out for a while and keep logging it. I may try a different oil as well later on. I have mct on hand as well and will order some gso as I never had a reaction to it IM. Perhaps gso subq wouldn’t irritate me. Either way it’s good information for the board and it isn’t unbearable at all

 

[Bigmurph6]

Im all for it. That was just my opinion ive tried subq and not liked it but I do know multiple people that enjoy injecting subq.
I will definitely be following

 

[Wcr86]

Brewed up 20ml last yesterday at 200mg/ml with mct and no miglyol 840. 2%BA, 10% BB, 4 grams test cyp, roughly 14ml of MCT. (Called for like 13.96ml) just pinned 1ml in right quad (VL) and was smooth as could be. Was having slight reactions to the mig. Going to try subq with the mct on next pin which is Sunday ( .5ml) and get back to my normal twice a week injections. I just really wanted to try this out and to be honest I missed the feeling of pinning in a muscle, I think it’s all in my head but I always get hyped and have a great workout after pinning IM and haven’t had the same mindset after a subq. If I don’t have a reaction to the mct subq I will brew more with it and toss the ones with mig out

 

[Bigmurph6]

You had a reaction to the mig?
I ask because ive seen this more and more that people are having reactions to mig.
What was the reaction?
Is your mig sourced from CN?

 

[Wcr86]

Either to the mig or just because it was subq. I’m going to try the mct subq next and see how that goes. The mig I got through a medical supply company based in the USA and the bottle says it’s from Germany. The reaction I had is not terrible, some site swelling, redness, discomfort and i could feel a knot at injection site for about 5 days. It’s was all better after 5 days. I will give it a shot again at a later date and post pictures of what it did.

 

[Bigmurph6]

That’s interesting ive been hearing about subpar mig coming from China that I thought might be the reason but if its a German company that changes my thoughts on that.
Interesting stuff I look forward to more
Thanks
Banned

 

[Wcr86]

I mean it could be a Chinese one with just a different label. It would be easier to sell it that way.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Yeah and we all know that counterfeiting is a reality also.
It sucks
Do you believe that the mig was in anyway thicker than it should have been because that’s what im hearing about the subpar mig is that its much thicker than real mig.

 

[Wcr86]

Honestly yes. Now that being said, I have never seen mig in person before. It is about the same as the mct I have, pushes through a 27g the same too. But the mct has no pain at all

 

[Ironside]

Hmm. When it comes to viscosity isn’t EO slightly more viscous than Mig? I also know EO is cheaper to produce. Makes me wonder if there was a switch here

 

[Wcr86]

Possibly. I wish I knew what both smelled like. I’ll post a pic of the mig later. It held 300mg/ml of test cyp at only 10%BB I was going to go lower on BB actually. I haven’t tried the Mig IM yet only subq bit I’m kind of afraid to try it IM in now

 

[Ironside]

What it can hold isn’t going to tell you much as both Mig840 and EO can both hold higher strength concentrations with a lower amount of solvents. Although, I’ll add that SQ has never gone well for me no matter what carrier was used. I almost always get a small lump and it stays a little irritated for a few days afterwards. My body doesn’t even like BAC SQ lol. If you’re confident in your brewing abilities, I wouldn’t hesitate to try it IM as the reaction likely wouldn’t be much different if you had a “bad reaction.” I’m thinking it’s the SQ pin that caused the issue.

 

[Wcr86]

True, I’m going to try the mct SQ i made first then I might try the mig IM. I never had this issue with any peptides SQ before. I’m confident in my sterilization when I brewed and in the raws I got. Not saying the raws are 99% or anything but the melt point even as rough as my measurements were was on point and the labmax test confirms hormone in the powder.