I know a couple pros from around here, women’s physique, figure and a men’s classic bb… and a handfull who were all NQ NPC competitors who just never made it to the next level… some who use ALOT and some who use very little, and I will say this for all of them, they all looked AMAZING before they started gear (naturally gifted) except one (figure girl) but her twin brother and older brother were both NPC NQ’d heavy weights, so I would imagine her genetics played a roll too, and no matter the amount of shit they’re pumping into their body, they still put in the work! Gear only helps you break down barriers… I didn’t pull almost 700 lbs because of test and nandrolone etc etc, or squat almost triple body weight raw… it got me through the doors of my sticking points, but I still had to bust my ass to hit those numbers… and compared to some other 220 and 242 lifters I had little numbers