Simple topic Arimidex vs. Aromsin?

[Stretch22]

My test was 850, E 19. And no AI, aside from the .125 Adex I took over a month ago made me feel like shit. Sorry to hijack the thread @maxxy10

 

[Neuro]

Well looks like you can take crazy high test doses without an AI. e2 of 19 should not be causing ANGII problems.

 

[Stretch22]

For sure haha. I’m looking forward to pushing my blast dose to see how high I can get with out needing ai. Going to start at 375/wk soon

 

[Poppy]

375/wk soon

That’s not too egregiously high. I get that high occasionally with no problems. Much higher and I get a bit of bloat and don’t feel well.

 

[Neuro]

I would say run there, and get labs to see e2 levels. Honestly telmisartan should be added regardless of estro levels and bloat. The other benefits negate most of the nasty risks we incur as enhanced athletes.

 

[Dirtnasty]

You need to get that estro up

 

[maxxy10]

So whats up with this telmisartan is this by script only thats what the googler says?

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

If you have a family history of heart issues, if you have high bp, if you bring your doctor the med papers posted here, or if they are worthy their salt…it should be an easy script to get. Even a low dose will provided the benefits we need long term.

 

[Poppy]

As @Aude_Aliquid_Dignu said. It’s not one of the expensive drugs with the cool jingle and dance routine you see on tv. It has so may benefits and is completely adjustable.

I, personally, am on low daily dose for renal function protection. I don’t have bp problems but my kidney function has been sketchy over the decades.

I did just that… I saved a post that @Neuro had here in my phone notes. I showed my doc and started discussing…he didn’t even blink… he said absolutely and wrote me a script.

 

[Poppy]

Ps… my renal functions improved greatly after taking it.

 

[Poppy]

Here’s my big problem with telmisartan… they put cotton in the bottle and my fat effn fingers can’t get it out… 8 yo baby girl to the rescue.

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

Haha probably too many syllables for a jingle huh?!

 

[Poppy]

Oh oh oh ozempic

 

[Jonny]

So I’ve been taking telmisartan for 3 months for preventative reasons. Should telmisartan be lowering my resting heart rate? My resting heart rate raised from 74 to 84 recently during a current blast. I’ve up’d my cardio from walking only to 30min per day of elliptical in an effort to lower my resting heart rate but I’m also wondering if I should raise telmisartan from 40mg to 80mg? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[Neuro]

Telmisartan should have no effect on heart rate. It acts in the peripheral vasculature by dilating vessels and thus reducing afterload of the heart. There may be some mechanism im unaware of that would alter HR. but if we reduce afterload, we increase cardiac output (cardiac output= HRx stroke volume) (afterload is part of stroke volume of the heart) by manipulating our stroke volume the HR MAY lower as a compensatory mechanism…. But not always. ARB’s don’t have any beta receptor interaction that I’m aware of which control heart rate.

 

[Jonny]

Sounds like increasing intense cardio is the right move then. Thanks!

 

[Poppy]

There may be some mechanism im unaware of that would alter HR

I’m pretty sure it will NOT alter heart rate.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I use scissors or tweezers on bottles like that

 

[Jonny]

I was under the impression It bound to the angiotensin II receptor in the heart and prevented angiotensin II from raising blood pressure and heart rate

 

[Poppy]

You’re getting a bit out of my study… I’m taking it for renal function. Low dose.

Please post anything you can find on it. It’ll help the community.