Truthfully im the poster child for what not to do. I started peds back in the early mid 80’s with no internet and very little knowledge of any of this stuff. I ingested a bunch of different compounds without recording anything. We just did whatever the big guy in the gym did. My one saving grace was I was a bit scared of them so I erred on the side of caution. For example… Ive never taken tren. It scared me and I just left it alone.