Test for Life, testicular atrophy and HCG

[AlphaNorthLabs]

for the brothers here who are on TRT or decided to use Test for life

testicular atrophy is something we will have to deal with

I typically do hcg blasts of 500iu 10 days every couple months

can anyone here comment on using it regularly at lower dosages. if you are consistent do your balls go back to regular size?

quite frankly i dont care as long as my test levels are stable but would like to hear others feedback

thank you in advance

 

[NeuroRN]

I think most TRT docs prescribe 250-500 twice a week as long as they are on treatment.

Another sponsor has touted the use of kisspeptin-10. 100mcg daily, it more closely mimics the body’s normal function. Half life is short as opposed to hcg’s being 20hr.

 

[AlphaNorthLabs]

thank you!!

 

[AlphaNorthLabs]

would you do it year around or on and off? please advise

 

[NeuroRN]

If you’re on TRT I would say run it year round. Check labs on and off to see how it effects estrogen and test, that will give you best idea of whether or not you need it.

I personally don’t like the feeling of the atrophy. So I run it all the time. I’ve personally found 125-150 twice a week will be sufficient for me. 250 twice a week the boys are almost uncomfortably large.

250 twice a week. The day before injection is the typical recommended protocol.

 

[AlphaNorthLabs]

oh man, thanks so much. i was doing it wrong.

 

[NeuroRN]

Yessir! Happy to help.

 

[herrubermensch]

Two different DOs have prescribed 100iu ED of HCG to maintain testicular size, but I also feel the difference in what must be additional testosterone production. So once a week I’ll bump it to 150iu or so for a couple of days, and man, I really feel those two days.

250iu to 500iu E3D is the protocol I think most typically prescribed, but I prefer the 100iu ED, bumping to 150-200iu for a couple of those days. Apparently, it takes regular dosing well above 500iu to desensitize your Leydig cells.

 

[Bigmurph6]

250iu to 500iu E3D is the protocol

When I used hcg this was the protocol that I would use

 

[AlphaNorthLabs]

thank you for that.
i was doing 500iu 10 day blasts every couple months
ill try the 100iu ed or 250 iu e3d

totally makes more sense

 

[EL-PEZIDENTE]

Being on HRT fror 7+ yrs I was started on 200mg T-CYP along with 500iu of HCG the two days before my Monday shot and I also was Rx’d a compounded Arimidex (was brand name only until recently) 0.5mg 3x/wk along with 200mg Methysulfonymethane) which is supplement derived from Caulidlower (anti-aromatse).
Good news: Test went from 415-998 in 3 months along with free test being excellent. PSA virually unchanged,
Bad News: Sex drive-meh. My pre Tx E2 was 33 (no man teats) and after 3 months my E2 was < 5 (they don’t test lower). He went over kill with the Arimadex (strong stuff). Just the MSM (not the joint supp) would have been quite sufficient This is from a well known MD specializing in this. He even took my suggestion of injectable Acetyl L-Caritine and marketed it, Thanks for the complimentary bottles doc!
Lesson learned, during your H & P with the doc be honest. MyAAS experience was 3 brief cycles and one time I IM’d ,5000 iu of Gonakor (Mex HCG) and my L nipple got like a pine cone. It scared the hell out of me but went away in 36hrs. Lesson: Don’t take AI’s unless u know you need them. 200mg/wk of t-cyp is usually the max for TRT from my experience. A 0.25 mg dose of A-dex 2/x week is plenty with A-dex having a 1/2 life of 3 days.

 

[AlphaNorthLabs]

great advice bro, thank you for sharing

 

[Andrew0409]

Does atrophy even matter beyond aesthetics? Are there any long term consequences?

 

[SidTheSlothh]

In my experience with atrophy there were two occasions where my right testicle actually was in my pubes, literally. During sex I looked down and saw a lump in my pube patch and had to push it back down. Then it impeded my sex life as I had to avoid certain positions and also kegeling out of fear of the retraction effect.