Do not trust Facebook or any Facebook owned service. WhatsApp or Instagram

[TG1]

I’ve gone over this before. Facebook claims their encryption has no backdoors bullshit but apparently the US has already had access to it. And now UK will also. In a joint US-UK agreement, Facebook and WhatsApp will have to share its private messages to the UK. The way the agreement reads is that the US already seems to have a backdoor and now will share info with UK as well.

Going into this, don’t trust Signal either. Signal is the works of Moxie who started red phone and text secure back in the day. He stopped all work when he got a payout from government to stop producing a secure device. He later came back with signal and govt funding. Saying an apps code is secure because its open source and everyone can see it, honestly isnt. With the apps you could easily change the code after and compile the apk or app with a backdoor. Given that Facebook hired Moxie to help with Facebook and WhatsApp, I wouldn’t trust shit that comes from any of them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...p-will-have-to-share-messages-with-u-k-police

 

[Bigmurph6]

There all part of the surveillance empire that has been built.

 

[TG1]

Its interesting even with the propaganda given out by the media and fake accounts. It occurs often and any developer worth a shit in the industry can spot it. They want people to feel secure and share more while they can gather more data.

 

[AlmightyGL]

screw that shit. like that book 1984

 

[jackedup]

Nothing is safe. Everything is being watched now. And i dont know why people think crypto is safer form of payment. its easier for sure. but you sign up on these bitpay and other crypto pay sites you have to put your personal information and transfer cash over from your bank account. They are tracing you every step of the way. And even if somehow you can setup fake personal information (have no idea how you could this day and age) they will track you by your IP address. There is no hiding anything anymore. They want you then they got you. In fact im a conspiracy theorist and i think the gov’t is actually behind bitcoin. it’s brilliant if you think about it. Probably 90% of transactions are really for illegal purposes. Whether it money laundering, payment for illegal goods and services, etc… they have everyone in big database now laughing at us. Seriously. Not even kidding.

 

[John]

Fuck Facebook, and thanks @TG, the last time you posted about FB sharing shit was the last day I was on it.

 

[Raphael3636]

Big Brother is always watching. Me personally I don’t use any of the social media shit, maybe cause I’m older, but it just doesn’t appeal to me. I started a Facebook page like 5 years ago and haven’t logged back in yet lol. I will admit though MySpace was the shit earlier in the days.

 

[n3rd]

Just wanted to throw out there that tracking by IP addresses is extremely hard and requires a lot of ground work. It CAN be done, but there are many hurdles starting with a subpoena and most ISPs will not give up the information willingly. On top of IP addresses, you’d have to assume it’s still within the log files. Not sure if you’ve ever seen a firewall log, but it literally generates millions of lines a minute. (I do this for a living)
To parse that information is crazy difficult.

 

[Bigmurph6]

In fact im a conspiracy theorist and i think the gov’t is actually behind bitcoin

I have believed this honestly since the beginning.
TOR was property of the us govt. Then btc being anonymous supposedly at the beginning. Both scream CIA or NSA innovations

 

[jackedup]

Well i was indicted by feds a while back and they knew my exact IP address and where i was doing what i was doing from. And they tracked every place i was over 2 year period based off IP addresses. so that’s why i said what i said. you login to a bank account from somewhere they knew it. you placed an order from somewhere using a credit card online they knew it. i was mystified by how much the feds can get their hands on.

 

[n3rd]

I wasn’t saying it can’t be done, by no means. Just that it takes a lot of work.
Must of done some crazy shit or doing something across state lines to be caught up on some federal charges…

 

[TG1]

Its actually very hard to track and nearly impossible if the people just use a few simple things. 1. Buy btc in cash thru local traders. 2. Use a VPN over tor on your wallet at all times. 3. Cash out your btc with local trading also. The IP needs to be logged from the first node that confirms it. This isnt easy to do and its not kept long if at all. Eventually you may find it to a known wallet being cashed out thru an exchange. Same way they track coins going out thru kyc laws and exchanges.

The amount of btc used for criminal activity is far less then total in circulation and uses. Just because some people use it for criminal purchases doesn’t mean everyone does.

Tor was originally govt funded and then abandoned when it was taken over by the current foundation. Now most people don’t understand but Tor is also extremely safe when used properly. Most the govt raids and catching people over tor happen because they fuck up.

For example, recently was a raid in Germany of a service that hosted a lot of the dark net marketplaces in an old underground bunker. They weren’t caught thru tor. They were caught because 2 of the owners registered domain names in their real name with the name of their services. Further those two dumbasses had priors for running a drug lab and still was operating a new lab in same bunker.

The silk road was busted cause the dumbass used the same name dread pirate Roberts on unencrypted email accounts that also linked his regular online service accounts and he had also used it online on normal forums asking for help setting up a marketplace.

Alphabay marketplace was busted from the developer leaving his email in email headers on a post.

There was a source on another well known forum that got busted several years back and he came online in forums talking about how he was secure with everything and the govt just knows things. Well I read his indictment. He was selling locally and taking orders and setting up deliveries thru regular text messages. One of his customers got caught and they found the messages and everything when they subpoena his phone records. He was full of shit saying he was doing everything secure.

Info is out there for sure but its not easy to obtain. Crypto is safe when using Monero very easily. That’s impossible to track. But it took years to teach people bitcoin. Will take longer to explain Monero lol.

 

[jackedup]

Securities fraud. they were trying to indict my father as well. luckily enough they knew where i and him were at times certain transactions took place and i was able to prove he had nothing to do with it. obviously because he couldn’t be where it showed i logged in and placed certain transactions. So actually the IP info helped. otherwise feds would have ruined his life in addition to mine.

 

[jackedup]

Yes i believe there are ways like you said. but most of are us are inept at this kind of stuff. im not a career criminal. i made bad choice when i had opportunity to make a quick million plus dollars. was supposed to be risk free and nobody would know the wiser. little did i know this moron that told me about the deal told a dozen different people and those people told other people and then im being indicted a year later cause someone got bright idea to become whistle blower and collect $2 million award.