Gyno issues letro not working

[billy4rilly]

I have some gyno issues going on. Nothing visible but painful just under left nipple. I ran a short test prop cycle last spring ending in april. I went out of town right after and did not run pct. Then, a few weeks ago, my nipple began to hurt. I ran some letro but it made me feel like crap. About a week ago, I started another cycle. 100mg test prop eod and 50 mg tren ace eod. Nipple has remained painful even though I’ve been taking 1.25mg letro eod. Lump is not growing or visible, just tender. I’ve dealt with the same nipple issue in years past but always been able to get it to go away. I’m on a very light cycle and cant figure out why it began off cycle. Anyone recommend anything else? Exemestane? Tamoxifen? Raloxifene? Should I give the letro more time?

 

[woodwalker1889]

I know some have had experience running nolva to combat gyno if it hasn’t gotten to bad. I haven’t had any issues so not much help on the topic. @Raphael3636 were you the one suggesting nova due to gyno issues earlier?

 

[Nacville]

Honestly bro, play it safe. Come off everything completely. Since it’s not visible I wouldn’t worry and at the dose you’re running, you’re not likely to have an insane amount of aromatization. I had the same thing happen to me back in grade school and it went away after a couple months but it would only hurt when I put and kind of pressure on it. Better that way and not load up on drugs that might just end up crashing you.

 

[swoldier]

Try to find some Raloxifene, I have used it with great results and know several others with the same story. Is there a mass or just tenderness?

 

[swole88]

Nolvadex in combination with letro should do the trick. I would come off cycle and get the gyno under control. I always run a low dose of nolvadex when on cycle.

 

[Stratfordave]

I’d give the letro some time… I never run any estrogen products on TRT… but as soon as I go over 350 per week of test, estrogen issues begin. Letro has always solved any tenderness or pea sized gland inflammation… but takes a few weeks!

 

[n3rd]

@PHD - any advice?

 

[Islandswole]

No way to truly tell without pulling blood work, it’ll save you all of the guessing and experimenting.

 

[Raphael3636]

Yes sir, with the onset of gyno run Nolvadex 40mgs first week 20mgs following weeks till gone. Now also I like to use Nolva during blast ED at 10mgs if running moderate to high dose test as preventative maintenance , I do get gyno easily so I like to stay on the safe side. Some say nolva lowers IGF levels, I haven’t noticed especially if your on GH.

 

[Raphael3636]

First thing brotha drop the Letro your just asking for trouble, that will kill all estrogen that’s prolly why you felt like shit my man. Nolva and exemastane , that’s a suicide inhibitor so you will not get any rebound estrogen. I would not run any AI for 2 weeks but start Nova protocol immediately. 40mgs ED first week , 20mg ED following weeks till totally gone. But you seriously need to get some estrogen built back up cause Letro at that dose I’ll put my money on you have 0 estrogen. Also you can come off see if lump persists, if so see your doc and have it removed brotha. Hope everything works out for you my man. By the way welcome to the community if you get some time throw up an intro so that way we know your stats and know what were working with. Hit me up if you have any questions brotha

 

[PHD]

Plenty of ppl jumping in on here lol.

 

[billy4rilly]

Thank you!!

 

[woodwalker1889]

I knew he was the man for the job!!

 

[billy4rilly]

The letro is working. No big lump, nipple looks totally normal and soreness is lessening. I ordered some more nolva that should be here by Thursday. I’ll switch to that when it arrives. I’ve had minor issues in the past but only when running way more stuff. This time it began after like 5 months off which was weird. I tried letro while off gear which makes you feel so terrible. Adding test prop to the equation made the letro way more tolerable. I’ll update this once the nolva arrives and I give it time to work. Let you guys know how it went. Thanks everyone for the advice. Knowledgeable people here!

 

[Bigmurph6]

Gyno treatment with an aromatase inhibitor, gyno treatment with Arimidex,gyno treatment with Anastrozole Steroid Cycles and Discussion

Treatment of testosterone-induced gynecomastia with the aromatase inhibitor, anastrozole This is a really good read on two men on trt who developed gyno and were treated with Anastrozole or Arimidex. Its very interesting to me that it was treated and cured with adex and not aromasin or letrozole. http://www.nature.com/ijir/journal/v16/n1/full/3901154a.html?foxtrotcallback=true

Just something from awhile back but if you type gyno into the search bar you will get multiple references to gyno prevention and treatment.
I know that alot of people say to use letrozole but I completely disagree because letrozole takes time to build up in the body when aromasin doesn’t and is a suicide inhibitor. Also nolvadex is so important during pct for this exact reason.

I have always recommended aromasin and nolvadex if it has already set in you can do nothing but surgery if its onset gyno you can still try to treat it with atleast nolvadex but have you gotten bloodwork done? Without bloodwork you have no Idea if your estrogen is already crashed or extremely high. Bloodwork is the first step but I would also use nolvadex 20mg ed. This is just my opinion.
You can’t mess around with these compounds and only do things halfway because this happens so anyone reading this remember before you start anything have everything that you need and everything that you might need.

Good luck and good gains brother

 

[billy4rilly]

Should I overlap letro and nolva for a day or 2 or just drop letro immediately and begin 40mg a day nolva? Will joints and stuff feel better on nolva?

 

[Raphael3636]

As soon as you drop the Letro your joints and yourself will feel better, you basically pulled all water from yourself. Letro makes for a good prep drug, week before you get on stage or a shoot when your trying to see 4% bf, Letro shouldn’t be used as an AI, way to harsh, I recommend looking into arimadex or aromasin as an AI. It’s not the Nolva that will make you feel better all Nolva does is attach itself to the receptors in your boobs. As soon as you build your estro up a lil higher you’ll feel 1000% better brotha, promise you that.

 

[Raphael3636]

Low estrogen sides

Dry skin, dry lips, dehydration, loss of libido, good morning wood no wood when its time for sex, loss of wood while having sex, loss of sensitivity, dry gland (penis), white gland, loss of girth, irritability, mood swings, crying for no reason, dht rage (aggression you take out on others), dull orgasm, hesitation just before urinating, night sweats, loss of appetite, constant fatigue, lethargy, constipation (due to dehydration), diuretic effect (pissing more water than you are consuming), itchy scalp, obsessive thoughts

Do you feel yourself belonging in this category?
Also I would like to mention that bloodwork would be paramount in this situation. But everything I mentioned is from personal experience.

 

[billy4rilly]

But Nolva by itself will do the trick? Then run that during cycle instead of an AI?

 

[Raphael3636]

Nolva will help with your gyno issues, but clearly your body aromatizes at some rate, so after off of Letro for say 2 weeks them incorporate an AI back into your regiment. Personally I like Aromasin, but many like Adex as well, more of a personal choice.