Hello. New member here. Previous user, have been clean for 7 years or so

[PHD]

Lol. Sorry 15-20 mg of dbol isn’t going to make you gain 30 pounds unless like you guys said you just eat like an ass hole and even then I’d likely lean to
Just being a fat ass because 15-20mg dbol isn’t even a beginner dose too damn low.

Just a lot of bogus talking seems like to me. Someone wanting to be important

 

[TG1]

Hows the old saying go? You cant flex fat.

 

[PHD]

Nope It’s just fat lol

 

[McSwickles]

I’m not fat… I’m just offseason!!! Haha.

 

[TG1]

Its kinda why i dont like discussing height and weight without discussing conditioning. Without a pic theres no way to really know.

Ive seen alot fat guys in thru the years brag about weight but god damn they are fat as hell lol.

 

[PHD]

Omg so true. Let’s see them stay fairly lean and post pics. Most guys bragging won’t.

 

[TG1]

 

[PHD]

I’m dead lol

 

[PHD]

I have read thru a lot of what people are posting on the boards these days and it really feels like things have gone backwards in terms of both general knowledge

This is the quote that got me I just shake me head because that whole post stunk of no knowledge. Sorry but true. And I’m being nice

 

[TG1]

 

[PHD]

We need a laugh button lol

 

[Nacville]

When I did my first dbol cycle I started at 25mg and ended up working my way up to 75mg and even then only gained 20lbs while eating 7 meals a day and 1 shake. Just to compare… forgot to mention I also threw in 25mg of adrol for one week but I couldn’t tolerate that…

 

[halifaxboy]

I’m not sure why there is so much hostility towards this post. As for a moderate dose of 15-20mg of dbol for 6 weeks… that was Dorian Yates first cycle and in his own words this is what he used. But I’m sure most people think he is lying. I don’t think he is bc the amounts of gear he used in his later career were not small according to him.

“Looking back, I may have been able to win that contest without using anything. I did one six-week “building” cycle of 20 milligrams of Dianabol a day, which took me from 215 at 5’11” to 235. Those were the most dramatic results I ever saw from steroids. I took six weeks off the gear, then at eight weeks out from my contest I began using 15 milligrams of Anavar per day, as well as one shot of Primobolan a week, which was 200 milligrams.”

 

[halifaxboy]

It’s also pretty clear that my “no knowledge” first post of multiple years of bloodwork, visiting doctors, using pharma grade gear at moderate doses, taking time off was just a laugh riot. My first dianabol cyle I gained near 30 pounds. Not once did I say this was all muscle or even imply it. I don’t see why I wouldn’t do the same given the fact that I am relatively untrained at the moment and I have a ton of muscle memory. I’d imagine my results this time around would be even more dramatic in terms of pure muscle add maybe not overall weight than the first cycle I ever did due to those 2 factors.

 

[TG1]

Ok so first, Dorian Yates has stated his first cycle was when he was young in 1985 in one place and in another in 1983. Hes also stated different first cycles thru the years including writing about in MD this.

So his story thru the years changed. Hes been called out on this before.

Secondly. You arent Dorian Yates. You dont have the genetics like Dorian Yates.

Your “doctors visits” and “blood work” doesnt amount to much honestly. You’re welcome to post proof of it all here.

I’d imagine my results this time around would be even more dramatic in terms of pure muscle add maybe not overall weight than the first cycle I ever

Yeah again, just no.

Tell ya what tho. Post current pics and weight and get hydrostatic testing done. Run a log and then before and after cycle and let everyone see the results of your better then pro genetics you got there. The last person to write like you do, and make claims like you do, pretended to be an IFBB pro and didnt know shit. Then claimed to be a pro that was a friend of @PHD of all people to chose.

 

[PHD]

God why can’t people just be real. Sorry your not going to have that kind of muscle memory. This is a joke. @TG you called it at its best and some guys think this is solid. This is just bs bro science which I can’t stand and can’t stand fake people leading others down a stray path

 

[PHD]

I would at best consider this guy a newbie. I mean you barely did a cycle then you’re off for 7 or 8 years but you have that much muscle memory. I want to see this shit because you’re next level Phil
Heath here bro.

 

[TBU]

What’s really funny? I seen this post and said welcome aboard. Then I started reading the post and comments. Sometime I must be too naive and think people coming to this site are looking for a great source of information or post realistic journeys. I guess I should read before I say welcome.

 

[John]

Ha ha yeah you should read harder

 

[PHD]

Better or harder lol