Inability to gain weight
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This above all else: to thine own self be true.
I yam what I yam
Know thyself.
Three maxims to live by .
I yam what I yam
Know thyself.
Three maxims to live by .
Bigmurph6
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Your solid so your training shows
I just read the entire thread @NeuroRN is spot on check blood work thyroid panel.
Also though I see that you prep meals everything is counted your around 8000 cals a day.
What are your macros?
Protein?
Carbs?
Fats?
In your prepped meals per day?
Also what type of diet are you eating what adds up to 8000 cals for you also have you kept the same exact diet for an extended period of time and also training the same way?
I ask because this is the simplest solution to a plateu is to just change everything up if your body gets used to the same thing over and over it adapts if you change it up it continues to evolve.
I just read the entire thread @NeuroRN is spot on check blood work thyroid panel.
Also though I see that you prep meals everything is counted your around 8000 cals a day.
What are your macros?
Protein?
Carbs?
Fats?
In your prepped meals per day?
Also what type of diet are you eating what adds up to 8000 cals for you also have you kept the same exact diet for an extended period of time and also training the same way?
I ask because this is the simplest solution to a plateu is to just change everything up if your body gets used to the same thing over and over it adapts if you change it up it continues to evolve.
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In my experience it’s hard to serve two masters. If you’re putting in that much time in the gym with extended cardio sessions maybe you’re burning too many calories for your goal of 200.
You’re lean by nature (not a bad thing) it looks like… throw in all that cardio and it will be hard to build as much muscle as you want.
You’re lean by nature (not a bad thing) it looks like… throw in all that cardio and it will be hard to build as much muscle as you want.
munn1983
US Navy Vet
I eat plant based Whole Foods. I do eat fish and duck/chicken eggs and I use whey and casein in my powder mix’s. What I do and almost everyone looks at me with laughter and disbelief. They make a joke of me till I take my shirt off…
Vitamix is the center of my universe. Things liquifys anything you drop in. I’m including a typical daily calorie count - hand written but legible.
Only time I eat solid is night and protein bar. I like organic pastas and salmon or similar and a slice of fresh baked bread. Everything on this list pretty much goes into a smoothie except extra virgin olive oil. 400 calories or 4 tbsp. Maybe a bit but I need fat and I dip my bread in it, As well as pour it on my pasta and salmon.
Tuna gets dropped in smoothies, fresh raw salmon as well or steel head trout. 3 cans of beans, organic 1 black, 1 chickpea, 1 lentil. There are 15 or so fruits and vegetables that lower cholesterol and are extremely heart healthy. They get blended. Fresh Brazil nuts, almonds, walnuts pecans go into the mix. The stuff little kids won’t eat I make taste good with honey, medullary dates, berries, figs.
This list is like over 8000 cals brother. It don’t include protein cliff bars and the coconut water 170 cal a can and I use like 3 cans to help with liguidification of this delicious concoction.
I stick to this pretty much all the time but 8000+ cal is like 6 of the shakers we use to make protein, work out drinks etc. that’s one first thing, one mid morn, one at lunch, mid afternoon evening and later evening sometimes over organic granola. I’m active. Keep up on cardio for my ticker—-when doing this although on rare occasion but still I puke when lifting heavy and during cardio. But I throttle down when it approaches. When I was dead set to cross that 200lb barrier I was also hitting I.M. Anadrol x first 4 weeks of cycle. That raised the difficulty level of eating even higher. I think I went 6 weeks. I had some temporary gain with the Abombs.
As I stated I do this diet now just on a lesser degree of caloric intake. 6 or 7 smoothies previous now 3.
I just finished a 16 week cycle and weighed and I did put on 4 lbs. Only weighed because I was a little curious since I posted my weight goal. I gave up weighing early this years because my wife laughed me, said I was acting like a chick and would have to detach my penis and turn into her. Could only retrieve when she approved it, you know like when all the other guys have theirs and I wouldn’t feel to
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Bigmurph. I am not even slightly exaggerating and the only outcome of this huge amount of chow was monster terds - the ones that cloggged every toilet south and north of the mason dixon line.
Vitamix is the center of my universe. Things liquifys anything you drop in. I’m including a typical daily calorie count - hand written but legible.
Only time I eat solid is night and protein bar. I like organic pastas and salmon or similar and a slice of fresh baked bread. Everything on this list pretty much goes into a smoothie except extra virgin olive oil. 400 calories or 4 tbsp. Maybe a bit but I need fat and I dip my bread in it, As well as pour it on my pasta and salmon.
Tuna gets dropped in smoothies, fresh raw salmon as well or steel head trout. 3 cans of beans, organic 1 black, 1 chickpea, 1 lentil. There are 15 or so fruits and vegetables that lower cholesterol and are extremely heart healthy. They get blended. Fresh Brazil nuts, almonds, walnuts pecans go into the mix. The stuff little kids won’t eat I make taste good with honey, medullary dates, berries, figs.
This list is like over 8000 cals brother. It don’t include protein cliff bars and the coconut water 170 cal a can and I use like 3 cans to help with liguidification of this delicious concoction.
I stick to this pretty much all the time but 8000+ cal is like 6 of the shakers we use to make protein, work out drinks etc. that’s one first thing, one mid morn, one at lunch, mid afternoon evening and later evening sometimes over organic granola. I’m active. Keep up on cardio for my ticker—-when doing this although on rare occasion but still I puke when lifting heavy and during cardio. But I throttle down when it approaches. When I was dead set to cross that 200lb barrier I was also hitting I.M. Anadrol x first 4 weeks of cycle. That raised the difficulty level of eating even higher. I think I went 6 weeks. I had some temporary gain with the Abombs.
As I stated I do this diet now just on a lesser degree of caloric intake. 6 or 7 smoothies previous now 3.
I just finished a 16 week cycle and weighed and I did put on 4 lbs. Only weighed because I was a little curious since I posted my weight goal. I gave up weighing early this years because my wife laughed me, said I was acting like a chick and would have to detach my penis and turn into her. Could only retrieve when she approved it, you know like when all the other guys have theirs and I wouldn’t feel to
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Bigmurph. I am not even slightly exaggerating and the only outcome of this huge amount of chow was monster terds - the ones that cloggged every toilet south and north of the mason dixon line.
You’re going to have figure them out for each ingredient by amount you put in there. Then add them all up. Big task but that’ll give you exactly what you’re ingesting.
Aggravating i know… I do it all day every day. I don’t like it but it helped with my health markers and hopefully for my goals.
Aggravating i know… I do it all day every day. I don’t like it but it helped with my health markers and hopefully for my goals.
munn1983
US Navy Vet
Love the Corps man—-see USMC Vet on profie. I’m a squid, started life as a corpsman. Got to the USMC as an E4 left as an E9. 22 years not leaving the Coros except for Schools and one tour instructor duty on the Special Forces 18D Committee…, Then I became a Command Master Chief and Big Navy tried to put me as Command Master Chief on the Leyete Gulf a Cruiser. Told them Only thing I knew about that ship was were the weight room was, don’t know shit about ships bad idea. Rode my time out at 2D MARDIV and Multnational Forces West Al Anbar Iraq. Easy Day.
Back to diet I believe I got a pretty good mix. I feel like a million bucks. How do I calculate macros?
Back to diet I believe I got a pretty good mix. I feel like a million bucks. How do I calculate macros?
Bigmurph6
Banned
I believe you brother I can actually see something that you can try and might make quick changes.
Your diet even though large is a very clean diet with all lean proteins. Possibly lower your cals and take in less ogf a clean diet put on the mass you did on your cycle with the adrol and such around 200. I believe with a dirty diet you can put on more mass try heavy carbs first and if you bloat lower carbs and raise protein I bloat myself so I take in alot of protein.
Also remember you gotta eat for your goals and your solid and I believe look great but if you want more mass I would say change your diet and cut out not all but most of the lean protein. Replace with chicken rice some greens really easy stuff to prep and will help add weight.
I really believe as crazy as it sounds cause your diet is so good its holding back your gains especially with certain compounds.
Change up everything
Training
Diet
Compounds
This will get you where you want we can discuss compounds also if your curious about my opinion brother
Your diet even though large is a very clean diet with all lean proteins. Possibly lower your cals and take in less ogf a clean diet put on the mass you did on your cycle with the adrol and such around 200. I believe with a dirty diet you can put on more mass try heavy carbs first and if you bloat lower carbs and raise protein I bloat myself so I take in alot of protein.
Also remember you gotta eat for your goals and your solid and I believe look great but if you want more mass I would say change your diet and cut out not all but most of the lean protein. Replace with chicken rice some greens really easy stuff to prep and will help add weight.
I really believe as crazy as it sounds cause your diet is so good its holding back your gains especially with certain compounds.
Change up everything
Training
Diet
Compounds
This will get you where you want we can discuss compounds also if your curious about my opinion brother
Bigmurph6
Banned
Also brother cut out all the protein powder its garbage and is why your turds are MONSTARS lol
Its much better to take in real food protein over any powder you gotta stop relying on the protein powder and use it maybe 2x a day because it doesn’t really do much brother especially in the amount your using that shit must make your gut really bad I imagine.
I know that the gas can be killer when using powders heavily.
Its much better to take in real food protein over any powder you gotta stop relying on the protein powder and use it maybe 2x a day because it doesn’t really do much brother especially in the amount your using that shit must make your gut really bad I imagine.
I know that the gas can be killer when using powders heavily.
@Bigmurph Gave you spot on advice.
But
@NeuroRN Asked a great question. We’re the same age and feeling good is golden at our age. I, personally, feel great right now at 204ish. I can be at 220 by the 4th of July (diet only). It wouldn’t be all good weight but I would be way stronger than I am now.
It’s been a little struggle trying to keep my weight down. But I’m also trying to maintain my muscle mass so it’s a delicate balance.
I said all that to say this… you can get to 200lbs with the advice given above relatively easy BUT you’re going to have to revamp your diet probably 90% and possibly readdress your training protocol. The downside to all that is you might not have the vim and vigor that you currently have at 185lbs. That’s why I’m down to low 200’s. At 220 (my natural weight) I just don’t feel as good as I do now.
My opinion… maybe give it a good run… take 4-6 months to get a “healthy” 200lbs…see how you like it and possibly slim back down to your current weight OR maybe 200 will fit like a glove and you can stay there.
But
@NeuroRN Asked a great question. We’re the same age and feeling good is golden at our age. I, personally, feel great right now at 204ish. I can be at 220 by the 4th of July (diet only). It wouldn’t be all good weight but I would be way stronger than I am now.
It’s been a little struggle trying to keep my weight down. But I’m also trying to maintain my muscle mass so it’s a delicate balance.
I said all that to say this… you can get to 200lbs with the advice given above relatively easy BUT you’re going to have to revamp your diet probably 90% and possibly readdress your training protocol. The downside to all that is you might not have the vim and vigor that you currently have at 185lbs. That’s why I’m down to low 200’s. At 220 (my natural weight) I just don’t feel as good as I do now.
My opinion… maybe give it a good run… take 4-6 months to get a “healthy” 200lbs…see how you like it and possibly slim back down to your current weight OR maybe 200 will fit like a glove and you can stay there.
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As a side discussion… Michael Phelps ate about 8k calories on his lead up to the olympics… thats a early 20’s world class athlete training for arguably one of the most difficult disciplines in sports. He was eating pizza, waffles, egg sandwiches, pasta, basically any calorie dense food he could get his hands on. He still maintained a 6 pack and destroyed the competition.
The media reported 12k a day but that was debunked.
The media reported 12k a day but that was debunked.
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