My glutes is bruised

That’s all you can do. I know I ll do things that aren’t recommended. Just pointing out he is leaving great natural gains on the table for a slightly better. It better to have great base and discipline in training and diet before hit the sazule
 
We live and learn. He sees his big bro in good shape but he knows there ain’t no shortcuts and I’ve made sure he’s very aware of the risk as well as the rewards. Its taken a while and a lot of trial and error but thanks to UGM I actually know what I’m doing and I was able to learn how to do it safely. I didn’t have a clue when I first started lol. Dirt your right brother base is very important.
 
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Brother he is going to relapse during his first pct that’s just the truth I didn’t know that he was off and running brother damn you know how hard it is to pct when your an addict he is going to ride that hormone roller coaster and its not going to be good.
Im really worried how long have you been clean brother @Lenkynot4longy ?
Also @Lenkynot4longy @Dirtnasty has a really good point and great advice you should really build a base and get your diet dialed in before running gear and dealing with estrogen and everything else your playing with fire brother im not going to tell you what to do but I never lie and im as honest as it gets your not ready to run gear you should honestly hold off your wasting time and resources. You can do so much better 6 months down the road with everything set up and ready to go diet, training, and compounds.

Just being honest with you brother trust me not everyone listens and its not a problem.
I wish the best for everyone at ugmuscle we practice Harm Reduction in every part of life.
Its what allows us to do what we do
 
@Bigmurph taken to heart brother I still want be here though and show pictures of my natural progress it’s not to late to pull the plug so I’m going to rethink my strategy for the end goal and have a from the heart decision by wed next week I just want to be something that will drop jaws when I take my shirt off you know
 
I’l don’t remember how old you did you were but trust you’ll get great natural gains and then when Hoping on you’ll be able to pick on even better gains if you mix steroids with. Mint gains it ends just be slightly better than what you get natural and it’s almost like wasting a cycle.
 
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