Post injury cycle

[Cube293]

A couple of years back I had two shoulder surgeries(both rotator cuffs and left SLAP tear) that have kept me from seriously working out since. Everything seems to be as good as it’ll get(the final follow-up with the surgeon is in a few weeks), and I’m wondering if anyone here has been through something similar, or has general advice, or workout advice.
At this point, I’m mostly looking to get pretty lean, and focus on improving my shoulders/avoiding reinjury.

I’m considering:
Test E: 600mg wk
Nolvadex PCT

I’m also considering HGH, but have no experience with it.

It’s been a long time, and I’d love any feedback.

 

[NeuroRN]

Use the magnifying glass to check out the many posts on PCT. nolva alone won’t do too much to get the boys working again.

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

You’ve gotten some good advice over the years is seems…
Slow and Steady and Simple > Fast and Furious and Exotic

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Around late June I had shoulder surgery and have been recovering well and recently started going through the motions at the gym again. Now if everything goes as planned I’ll be getting my other shoulder worked on within the week. All that being said, anyone have recommendations on anything to help me recover faster or general motivation at this point lol. These aren’t the most major surgeries, one was to remove a bone spur and clean up torn muscle, and the upcoming is to clean up torn muscles…

 

[Cube293]

One of the reasons HGH is on my radar, but I’ll do a deeper dive into it.

 

[NeuroRN]

Hgh for pct? I’m confused.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I think during cycle edit I’m betting he means hcg

 

[NeuroRN]

Ahhh that makes more sense.

 

[Dirtnasty]

Then agai some people start hgh after cycle to try and hold onto gains I guess so who knows

 

[NeuroRN]

Oh boy. I would love to hear that logic.

 

[Cube293]

Been too busy to clarify. I was thinking HGH might be useful as PCT, but that’s bad info on my end. I was wondering if there would be any reason to not give hgh a chance, and how beneficial it would be to help or at least prevent injury. Been away from everything for awhile and definitely have a lot of research to do before committing to anything.

 

[Kad1]

I believe I’ve posted some stuff on shoulder rehab/ prhab. Also happy to answer any questions.
Why start at 600mg have you done 300 or 400?
Clomid or HCG will treat you well

 

[Cube293]

Thanks, I’ll look through your posts. Thinking somewhere between 400-600. I’ve ran 600 before, but will mostly depend on what if anything else I add in.

 

[Kad1]

I’d start at 300 and titrate up if needed. I always start low and see what’s the least amount I can use and get good results. More isn’t already better it’s just more

 

[JB_rD81]

I had 2 surgeries on the same shoulder in 11 months in college, 20 years ago. Torn rotator in my right shoulder, released by athletic trainers and university doctor to start throwing again 5 months post op, tore it again as well as labrum the 2nd go around… ended my shotput career and derailed my training for PL for close to 2 years (1 year during surgeries, 1 year after surgeries). Luckily my bench was never that awesome, so I was able to get most everything back.

 

[Cube293]

Pretty similar story on my part. My right is mostly okay now, but the left feels like 60-70% at best. My bench was up around 380 before my shoulders gave, and it’s probably best that I never try getting back to that.

 

[Stretch22]

I’d probably do something like
300mg Test/week
25mg Anavar/day
Pick one: HGH,BPC157 daily
Blast HCG for a few weeks after last pin then run the nolva

 

[NeuroRN]

Alternative thought:

HCG is suppressive in its own right. It doesn’t stimulate FSH or LH. it replaces them and binds to their receptors instead of them…. The exact same way as testosterone does.

Some people swear by it for PCT, but I personally think it’s better to avoid all suppressive meds if you’re going to PCT.

 

[johnjuanb1]

HGH is good year round to keep body fat off and speed up recovery.

 

[NeuroRN]

I agree…. I said HCG! @johnjuanb1 and he was saying HGH for pct. I think that’s when we all got confused.

 

[Cluster]

I bet a million hgh would do wonders for u