I will say this, I’ve never used more then 75-80 tops and only that high when I use deca, however I did up to to a even 100, 8 days ago, and I’ll be damned if it don’t remind me of using 500mg of Masterone per week, I’m more vascular, and definitely more tight, I like mast, but using the proviron at 100mg,saves me pinning, but is a bit more expensive.