Question: I’m going to be on at least TRT dose of test forever. Do I still need to run a pct after a tren cycle?

[KodiakGrrl]

I ll take two please

 

[BrandonIron]

why are you running all those compounds- my goal with this cycle was to gain mass.

and why are you switching to primo ? Because I’ll be at the end of an 8 week cycle of tren. My goal with this is to lean out, and maintain gains made on the previous cycle.

what is the purpose of this cycle ?oint_up:t2:

what is your proposed low dose deca? 250 mg

What is the purpose of pct? (you’re on trt? right?) that was my question

 

[BrandonIron]

@Ironside Great information, thank you

 

[BrandonIron]

What is a good dht to run with tren?

 

[Ironside]

Really depends on your goals and if you want an oral or an oil. Also keep in mind that you’re already into this run quite a few weeks so if you’re going to add one in soon then it’ll likely have to be an oral or a faster ester like ace or prop.

 

[BrandonIron]

Oh I’m asking for next year. Because of this advice that actually makes sense, I’m going to drop the deca for the rest of this run and pick up the tpp/mast/tren mix to finish it off, before switching to test/primo

 

[Islandswole]

You just answered your own question, masteron would be your DHT

 

[BrandonIron]

Masteron is just for “finishing” a cycle, right? I’m mainly asking for next year’s cycle. I’m wanting to stay away from orals, and my goal for that cycle is going be to more bulking

 

[Islandswole]

Your diet should dictate your goals, not your compounds. I say that to say, you can very easily bulk or cut with Tren and Mast… shit Tren along with test alone and you’d be perfectly fine. Just eat to suit your goals.

 

[PHD]

Mast is great for cutting I wouldn’t say it’s a finisher I’d use it for a complete cycle.

 

[BrandonIron]

Awesome. Thanks guys

 

[KodiakGrrl]

Thanks for answering … first tren should if the diet is correct lean you out.

dont get caught up in the … gotta take 'something" to get lean. Lean is and always will be something that happens in the kitchen … in fact I challenge people to get lean without compounds and exercise … it is real and it does work.

deca always means water weight it increases the progestin in the system and forces estrogen into the joints… 250 mg is not a 'low" dose… it is a low dose for a cycle. if any at all Id say no more than 50mg per week is necessary for joint relief IF that’s even the problem to begin with AND as it has been said staying on anything like that long term without taking breaks has long term risks that aren’t documented

think about what TRT is for… you aren’t making enough Test …
what is PCT for? restart the production of natty Test… which your system already isn’t …

gains are maintained and LOST in the kitchen

 

[Jolter604]

Not as long as u r injecting test
Nolva and clomid would be a waste

 

[PHD]

Finally someone explained TRT and PCT

 

[BrandonIron]

Yes and I really appreciate it.

 

[Bigmurph6]

That’s solid advice but there are no medical studies or papers related to using nandrolone over extended periods?
I actually don’t know the answer. Im going to look to see if I can find anything on it but I do agree.
Im just surprised that nandrolone which has been around for awhile and is used in medicine doesn’t have any longterm use studies.