Should I Do a cut once a year even if I'm trying to bulk?
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Gottcha thanks guys appreciate the insight! Another thing. Does Decca ever fuck with anyone to get it up? I am super horny but I its tough to get super hard. I’m taking test, Decca and eq atm. About to.come off but I may just have to get some cialis to compensate. Also how long does it take to come back from.that?
Bigmurph6
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Yes your estrogen and possibly progesterone are way out of range.
You need to get tested for e2 and p2 and see which one is the problem then use your caber or AI to take care of the issue
Extremely long im over a year off and my numbers are as low as they get you need to start pct 4wks after last injection because of decca and eq.
Blood work is definitely needed roidtest.com 20%off at checkout UGMUSCLE they have home test kits or go online and find a place for a prescription for blood work
You need to get tested for e2 and p2 and see which one is the problem then use your caber or AI to take care of the issue
Extremely long im over a year off and my numbers are as low as they get you need to start pct 4wks after last injection because of decca and eq.
Blood work is definitely needed roidtest.com 20%off at checkout UGMUSCLE they have home test kits or go online and find a place for a prescription for blood work
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Bigmurph6
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I wouldn’t throw things and see if they stick wait for the results and then take proper action.
If you just use an AI you could just crash estrogen and it might not be high estrogen it could be low estrogen if you use caber it might not be p2
Nolvadex you can take if you believe that gyno might be coming on
If you just use an AI you could just crash estrogen and it might not be high estrogen it could be low estrogen if you use caber it might not be p2
Nolvadex you can take if you believe that gyno might be coming on
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I did do.some research and i wasn’t even having any adverse side effects for the longest time. Occasionally I would take some cialis but thats just a bandaid for the problem. I am.coming off now so gonna keep my test going for a few weeks without the deca and eq then do my pct.
Is there anything else you would recommend for pct or timing or length of time I should wait for next cycle?
Is there anything else you would recommend for pct or timing or length of time I should wait for next cycle?
I planned on hcg, clomid and nolva. Tjinkni.need to add adex in there too? I have everything just trying to.figure out how much stronger I should go than normal.
I usually cruise on 250mg of test during pct. Even though its.been a couple weeks since I stopped Decca I’m still.doimg 750 mg. I’ll stop that next week and back it down to 250 and the following week I’ll start pct.
I usually cruise on 250mg of test during pct. Even though its.been a couple weeks since I stopped Decca I’m still.doimg 750 mg. I’ll stop that next week and back it down to 250 and the following week I’ll start pct.
Bigmurph6
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Adex gives you a rebound of estrogen but that’s what the nolvadex is there to prevent gyno I would just wait 4 wks after decca and atleast 2wks after testosterone.
If you plan on continuing testosterone to cruise you don’t need to pct until you stop everything but the longer you run especially since you used a nor19 compound makes it harder to come back to natural levels. After I ran decca I was unable to regain natural levels.
If you plan on continuing testosterone to cruise you don’t need to pct until you stop everything but the longer you run especially since you used a nor19 compound makes it harder to come back to natural levels. After I ran decca I was unable to regain natural levels.
Bigmurph6
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This depends me personally I kept cruising on testosterone because I knew that I wasn’t going to be able to come back.
This depends on alot so if you’re willing to answer the questions im willing to break down your best pct plan?
How many cycles?
Which compounds in each cycle?
Age?
How long was each cycle you have ran?
Are you use to using hcg?
How much of each compound do you have between the Clomiphene and mg?, Nolvadex and mg?, and HCG how many iu do you have available?
Any blood work available?
Answer this and I will give you a breakdown of in my opinion the best way to run everything
This depends on alot so if you’re willing to answer the questions im willing to break down your best pct plan?
How many cycles?
Which compounds in each cycle?
Age?
How long was each cycle you have ran?
Are you use to using hcg?
How much of each compound do you have between the Clomiphene and mg?, Nolvadex and mg?, and HCG how many iu do you have available?
Any blood work available?
Answer this and I will give you a breakdown of in my opinion the best way to run everything
Ok Murph so before I was 25 (about 10 years ago) I probably did 6 to 8 cycles of either just test or test and dbol or test and windy. Those were probably only around 12 week cycles I only used nolva for a pct for those but would take some good time.off between cycles. Age 25 to 32 I had an extended vacation there I lifted all the time but couldn’t do any gear because it wasn’t available. When my vacation was over around 32 (I am 34 now) I wanted to cycle again and have done 3 cycles lasting about 20 weeks with a good 6 or 8 weeks off in between. My first I just did test, second I did test and eq., and dbol. And 3rd which was this last one I did I ran test, eq, Decca and dbol at the beginning to jump start. I am about to.come.off.now and for pct I have been doing hcg and nolva. I am.going to add clomid to the mix this time but because of the Decca I want to make sure im.good. I really want to keep as much size as possible though because it takes a lot for me to put it on. I am 235lbs, 6’2" and would like to keep gaining yet stay as healthy as I can while doing it. Aftery.last cycle I had a ex bodybuilder doctor now that deals in hormones get everything back to where it needed to be before I took off again. I had labs done and on 250mg of test once a week I was looking good levelwise. I may have him help me out again but it’s hard with my work schedule and his clinic hours.
So right now I have 15000iu of hcg. 2 bottles of liquid nolva 30ml 25 mg, and 2 packs of 50ct 50mg clomid for pct. Along with my cialis
So right now I have 15000iu of hcg. 2 bottles of liquid nolva 30ml 25 mg, and 2 packs of 50ct 50mg clomid for pct. Along with my cialis
Bigmurph6
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So I started at 16 ran off and on no pct just popping prohormones both methyl test and nortestosterone so that really messed me up but into and through my 20s I ran a couple of cycles.
I came back around 35 and started again 3 cycles and then ran for 2yrs straight.
I can no longer regain in range levels on my own and it was after decca and the 2 yrs was mostly just cruise and primo.
2 pacs of clomiphene good
15000iu hcg good
I would go back to a doctor because if you couldn’t regain natural levels before I believe that doctor supervision is a good route because you can get the compounds that you need especially pharma grade products. You don’t have enough nolvadex to prevent gyno during pct.
You say that he got you back and you took off again that sounds like you didn’t wait very long between cycles im guessing that your triglycerides were in range but did your natural testosterone levels come back to around 600-700?
Honestly you have run alot of gear brother you are on the borderline of being able to pct and have your dick working and feeling good.
Im a year out my dick doesn’t work unless cialis or viagra and I feel shitty.
I believe that you need to cut decca run testosterone longer like you plan at trt levels bring your testosterone down and in range also level out your estrogen. Get blood work that shows this then hit with pharma grade or equivalent.
3wks after testosterone trt level shot with estrogen in range start
Clomiphene 100mgs split ed 2wks
Nolvadex 40 mg split ed 2wks
Clomiphene 50mg split ed 2wks
Nolvadex 20mg ed 2wks
Run hcg if needed but I believe that it works better during cycle but someone else might have a protocol after cycle. I imagine it will be big blasts 1000iu at a time possibly start at 2500iu ,1500iu, 1000iu, 500iu then continue at 500iu until you see the results. The grapes come back.
I honestly believe that this is a strong pct but you can get estrogen spikes from hcg so watch that you don’t get gyno from that
I came back around 35 and started again 3 cycles and then ran for 2yrs straight.
I can no longer regain in range levels on my own and it was after decca and the 2 yrs was mostly just cruise and primo.
Liquid nolvadex??GetSwole said:
2 pacs of clomiphene good
15000iu hcg good
I would go back to a doctor because if you couldn’t regain natural levels before I believe that doctor supervision is a good route because you can get the compounds that you need especially pharma grade products. You don’t have enough nolvadex to prevent gyno during pct.
You say that he got you back and you took off again that sounds like you didn’t wait very long between cycles im guessing that your triglycerides were in range but did your natural testosterone levels come back to around 600-700?
Honestly you have run alot of gear brother you are on the borderline of being able to pct and have your dick working and feeling good.
Im a year out my dick doesn’t work unless cialis or viagra and I feel shitty.
I believe that you need to cut decca run testosterone longer like you plan at trt levels bring your testosterone down and in range also level out your estrogen. Get blood work that shows this then hit with pharma grade or equivalent.
3wks after testosterone trt level shot with estrogen in range start
Clomiphene 100mgs split ed 2wks
Nolvadex 40 mg split ed 2wks
Clomiphene 50mg split ed 2wks
Nolvadex 20mg ed 2wks
Run hcg if needed but I believe that it works better during cycle but someone else might have a protocol after cycle. I imagine it will be big blasts 1000iu at a time possibly start at 2500iu ,1500iu, 1000iu, 500iu then continue at 500iu until you see the results. The grapes come back.
I honestly believe that this is a strong pct but you can get estrogen spikes from hcg so watch that you don’t get gyno from that
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