Simple topic Arimidex vs. Aromsin?

[maxxy10]

So whats the better of 2 have both just running trt just about out of arimidex but am stocked on aromisin and with arimidex i usually only run 1mg a week what that be at aromisin 12.5 mg?

 

[Dirtnasty]

I mean honeslty for me
I wouldn’t use either on trt dose 12.5 would be way too much aromisin. I use 12.5 e3d on as much as 2 g of test

 

[maxxy10]

Ok cool thanks

 

[Neuro]

You should need neither one on a true trt dose. What was your last estro and test levels

 

[maxxy10]

My test was at 1300 didnt get a full lab this time because im only cruising instead of blasting like I was last time and estro was in range

 

[Neuro]

We actually want our estrogen as high as we can manage with out side effects. By elevating your test and keeping your estrogen normal your negating the health benefits of estrogen. There’s a reason our levels naturally rise as our test rises.

 

[maxxy10]

Im just trying to ditch some water retention

 

[Neuro]

Estrogen isn’t the cause of water retention. Angiotensin II is. It rises with estrogen levels and causes you to hold water. Which is why when you crush your estro down to a normal range while your test is elevated you lose the water retention. If your estrogen is within normal limits and your test is elevated your leaving the most cardiac, Neuro, and renal protective hormone off the table.

Enter telmisartan.

 

[herrubermensch]

They are both poison and should be used only when you have rather obvious E2 issues (puffy sore nipples, crying at pictures of puppies on the internet, etc.) And then you should take the tiniest effective dose you can for the shortest possible period. At TRT dose-levels, neither is necessary. As @Neuro noted (and he IS one of the sharpest tools in the shed), “correlationally high” E2 is a good thing with higher test levels. Its the ratio of free test to E2 that matters most. Research and you will find a lot of technical literature online about this.

 

[herrubermensch]

Enter telmisartan.

+100 Telmisartan is just about the single greatest supplement in my arsenal. It lowers my BP about ten ticks, I feel calmer when on it, no ringing in my ears, and over about a week on it, I’m drier without any of the consequences that usually attend to being drier (e.g., sore joints). That’s because unnecessary water is off you WITHOUT reducing your E2.

 

[Neuro]

(and he IS one of the sharpest tools in the shed),

Oh you stahhhhhhhp it.

EXCELLENT post.

And then you should take the tiniest effective dose you can for the shortest possible period

And then adjust your hormone inputs as to ensure you don’t need to take it again.

I’ll say it over and over and over and over, it sticks a little more each time… if you and an enhanced lifted, or on trt… telmisartan is your best tool for long term health.

 

[Poppy]

Next month will be my one year anniversary on telmisartan.

To piggyback on @herrubermensch …. It’s been the # 2 game changer, after trt (cyp).

I have labs in a week or so with my doc appointment being in a couple of weeks. So we’ll see if my renal function win streak will eclipse a year.

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

I’ll say it over and over and over and over, it sticks a little more each time…

Well, I can think of another which is kinda very extremely necessary a little bit too. It’s not a dirty word people….say it with me “CAAAAARDDDDDDIOOOOO”

 

[John]

Nope.

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

We’ve got a lot of work to do….

 

[Stretch22]

I don’t know how people take AIs like that on TRT. I’m probably an outlier but I had some bloat last month while on 200mg cyp. Thought may be estrogen, took a .125mg arimidex and felt like complete dogshit for several days. People may say that is not a high enough dose to crash E, and they may be right, but just Google the sides of the drug itself, they can be pretty rough on the body. Last time I will make that mistake.

 

[Stretch22]

I gotta look into telmisartan low dose. Those taking it, is there a noticeable effect on bloat? Face bloat is an issue for me from time to time. Estrogen is at 19 currently ( just got labs). 200g carbs a day and definitely not high sodium. Wondering if angiotenisin could be causing it

 

[Neuro]

What’s your test at? Are you taking an AI?

 

[maxxy10]

My test is over 1300 if your talking to me

 

[Neuro]

Was talking to @Stretch22 but with a test of 1300 you should not need an AI. if you do you need to drop your test dose and accept your fate and a genetically unique male.