kingkonggainz
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I don’t personally watch sports in the house, so it’s never on but in that context they don’t watch wrestling for the same sake of argument so yes lol
Crazy! Shoving it down your throat
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Sorry I don’t identify as someone who acknowledges gender as a convention. I identify as someone who subscribes to the thousand plus year old tradition that “he” is a biological male and “she” is a biological female.
I’m perfectly fine with people wanting to dress, behave or sleep with who ever they want. Makes no difference to me.
For reference the definition of “gender” in a dictionary from the 80s is as follows: the classification of words, or the class to which a word belongs by virtue of such classification, according to the sex of the referent.
Just because our new found woke culture changed the definition doesn’t make it right. Lol
I’m perfectly fine with people wanting to dress, behave or sleep with who ever they want. Makes no difference to me.
For reference the definition of “gender” in a dictionary from the 80s is as follows: the classification of words, or the class to which a word belongs by virtue of such classification, according to the sex of the referent.
Just because our new found woke culture changed the definition doesn’t make it right. Lol
anabolic_geek
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I genuinely don’t think it’s a ‘woke culture thing’. As I said above, that’s all just a smoke screen, designed to get us to ‘otherize’ each other.
What it is is pretty simple: People’s brains fucking flipping the hell out on them because their gender presentation doesn’t match what their brain is telling them it should be. It manifests in all sorts of ways: depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, feelings of invisibility or worthlessness. In the same way a combat vet comes home conditioned to think he’s under enemy fire every fourth of july (actually was happening to a close friend of mine until relatively recently. it took years of therapy and deconditioning to manage it).
Transitioning is the best solution medical science has found to this and the process is commonly misunderstood. It doesn’t happen overnight, in the same way PTSD isn’t solved overnight. It takes a long process that starts with trying out new names and pronouns to see if it helps alleviate symptoms. It then progresses to new clothes and taping/stuffing/wearing a package. and yes, finally, after often years of therapy and using the new name and pronouns, they begin medically transitioning.
Trans people know that they are pretending. However, the idea is over time, as people around them warm to their new presentation and name, that they simply transition to thinking of themselves as that new gender. They know they can never have babies, or functioning sexual organs of that gender. All they want is the nagging symptoms to go away.
It’s not a ‘trap’ or ‘grooming’ or anything like that. They just want to not feel awful because their brain is freaking out about their gender presentation. Same as that vet who can’t stop freaking out at the fucking neighbors blowing up m80s next door. It’s a collective favor we can all do for them, that way they can feel normal and accepted in society to use pronouns and names and accept that person as the gender they present as. Because they’re human beings, just like the rest of us, and they deserve dignity and respect just the same.
What it is is pretty simple: People’s brains fucking flipping the hell out on them because their gender presentation doesn’t match what their brain is telling them it should be. It manifests in all sorts of ways: depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, feelings of invisibility or worthlessness. In the same way a combat vet comes home conditioned to think he’s under enemy fire every fourth of july (actually was happening to a close friend of mine until relatively recently. it took years of therapy and deconditioning to manage it).
Transitioning is the best solution medical science has found to this and the process is commonly misunderstood. It doesn’t happen overnight, in the same way PTSD isn’t solved overnight. It takes a long process that starts with trying out new names and pronouns to see if it helps alleviate symptoms. It then progresses to new clothes and taping/stuffing/wearing a package. and yes, finally, after often years of therapy and using the new name and pronouns, they begin medically transitioning.
Trans people know that they are pretending. However, the idea is over time, as people around them warm to their new presentation and name, that they simply transition to thinking of themselves as that new gender. They know they can never have babies, or functioning sexual organs of that gender. All they want is the nagging symptoms to go away.
It’s not a ‘trap’ or ‘grooming’ or anything like that. They just want to not feel awful because their brain is freaking out about their gender presentation. Same as that vet who can’t stop freaking out at the fucking neighbors blowing up m80s next door. It’s a collective favor we can all do for them, that way they can feel normal and accepted in society to use pronouns and names and accept that person as the gender they present as. Because they’re human beings, just like the rest of us, and they deserve dignity and respect just the same.
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Aude_Aliquid_Dignu
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My all time favorite fiction is “Name of the Wind” by Patrick Rothfuss.
It is thick and slow to start, but piece are simply the most beautiful literary prose of contemporary literature i have found in the context of an engrossing story. Anyone who reads it…would thank me, three times.
It is thick and slow to start, but piece are simply the most beautiful literary prose of contemporary literature i have found in the context of an engrossing story. Anyone who reads it…would thank me, three times.
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anabolic_geek
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I have much simpler tastes. The Expanse series by James SA Corey is some of the best, most scientifically accurate space opera around. The tv series is great too!
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I hate 4th of july for just that reason.anabolic_geek said:
My community is surrounded by a national forest…. We still have an intentionally set (albeit smaller) forest fire smoldering… smoked up the whole area and snowing ash. That won’t stop the rednecks from shooting very large booming rockets into the air all hours of the night… landing who knows where.
anabolic_geek
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It is several books! 8 I think! Plus the short stories (all of which are included in the tv series in some form or fashion)
I had just spent the better part of a half hour writing my opinion on this discussion only to erase it. To summarize my thoughts… children should not get to make major life decisions. Parents should support their children in any way they can but in regards to transitioning, that’s a decision they can pursue as an adult. As far as parades or stores…don’t go or don’t shop if that bothers you. Just my two cents
anabolic_geek
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I think your opinion is sensible, but it’s kinda based on incorrect assumptions? Hear me out here: Transitioning IS NOT synonymous with medical transition – it’s an umbrella term used to talk about the entire process end-to-end. Medically transitioning is when you start hormone therapy and ends with cosmetic and/or sex change surgeries. it should also be noted that the sex change/cosmetic part is a patchwork process. Some people don’t have what’s called ‘bottom’ dysphoria for instance, so sex change surgery isn’t really needed for those people – it is enough to alleviate symptoms for them to simply present as their new gender and/or ‘top’ surgery (implants/mastectomy).
Those are steps taken with special care with children for obvious reasons: kids aren’t as developed and obviously no one wants the child to go forward with a decision they may regret later. That’s why the first step is always to try out new names, clothes and pronouns. It’s true: Adults do often proceed to a medical transition MUCH more rapidly than children for the exact reasons you might expect. For kids, the medically transitioning doesn’t happen for several years, where adults will often jump to the hormones step not long after trying out pronouns, names and clothing.
Like I said before, it’s a REALLY commonly misunderstood process and the media doesn’t help matters.
Those are steps taken with special care with children for obvious reasons: kids aren’t as developed and obviously no one wants the child to go forward with a decision they may regret later. That’s why the first step is always to try out new names, clothes and pronouns. It’s true: Adults do often proceed to a medical transition MUCH more rapidly than children for the exact reasons you might expect. For kids, the medically transitioning doesn’t happen for several years, where adults will often jump to the hormones step not long after trying out pronouns, names and clothing.
Like I said before, it’s a REALLY commonly misunderstood process and the media doesn’t help matters.
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I think so much of this is cleared up by, hang on to your butts, Having a conversation with someone who is walking in the shoes opposite your opinion.anabolic_geek said:
Wild idea. I know.
Not a debate, but a genuine conversation. The way almost all opinions are so heavily polarized these days, it’s easy to forget the topic of this whole thread is a human being going through something extremely complex.
Poppy story time.very true story.
After my first wife left I joined a gym to get out of the house away from my garage gym…socializing to a point.
Our local golds was in a big strip mall next to belks (our “fancy” dept store). I had just finished training and was sitting in my car fiddling around with my phone. I had a front row parking spot. I had glanced up partially and seen a set of gorgeous legs just strutting out of belks rocking a mini skirt. First thought was heck yeah… followed the legs up to a tube top…no boobs… 50ish yo bald dude working it down the sidewalk. Completely accesorised with a great set of legs by anyone’s standards. Haha.
No point to this story either way just one of my cool experiences that I still share occasionally. Been almost 20 years ago. Wished I had a smart phone back then to video it.
After my first wife left I joined a gym to get out of the house away from my garage gym…socializing to a point.
Our local golds was in a big strip mall next to belks (our “fancy” dept store). I had just finished training and was sitting in my car fiddling around with my phone. I had a front row parking spot. I had glanced up partially and seen a set of gorgeous legs just strutting out of belks rocking a mini skirt. First thought was heck yeah… followed the legs up to a tube top…no boobs… 50ish yo bald dude working it down the sidewalk. Completely accesorised with a great set of legs by anyone’s standards. Haha.
No point to this story either way just one of my cool experiences that I still share occasionally. Been almost 20 years ago. Wished I had a smart phone back then to video it.
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