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Why deca and tren on the same cycle? I’ve always been told because they are similar in properties, it wouldn’t be doing much…
 
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Just because there both 19nor compounds doesn’t make them alike at all. 2 totally different drugs. With my next cycle I’m going to try to stay in the range of 600g carbs a day, with the Tren it will help my body process it better, also keep me looking somewhat lean while still packing on mass
 
Its funny, When there was very little Supps around and there were worries about counterfeits, and just plain oil, I remember lots of guys and myself just going to basically milligrams per week. We knew about blood levels and some other stuff, but it was load up on what you could get and especially if you knew it was real. Late 80s, early 90s. There was the start ups like Ttokyo, Denkall and the russian and polish omadren but it was hard to get. Thats were you hear of those stories(i think) of 5 anadrol a day, etc. I remember we all looked pretty good and it was a time when the guys that had really good connects looked way better. I would get whatever I could and just plan out a cycle. The goal was around a gram or gram and a half. It might be test cyp at 600/week, Deca at 400 and 30mgs of dbol per day for as long as that went then EQ at 300-500(50mg), or/and laurabolin at 3-500 with suspension at 300. The tren pellets we would usecrushed w/dmso or under tongue and yes I used the pulverrized tren just mixed with test. Point is, again the training , eating and everyone being in the same gym forcing you to train harder, It seemed there wasnt so much time wasted on planning cycles. Of course I don’t think that was the better way. With all the knowledge and social media and access, its better…maybe safer but its been more confusing and the physiques haven’t really showed the improvement one would expect. I think it is so much more confusing for most guys
 
I have to ask about the laurabolin how was it did you like it?

I do agree that there is alot of broscience that has clogged the community. The old school ways are proven and work. The new real science is showing some amazing things are possible and being done right now.
 
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Well depends on my goal, typically I’ll run Tren higher and as my base when trying to shred up, low test usually trt levels. Now the off season is here I want to pack on as much mass as possible and nothing beats Test at high levels to do that
 
Also remember when running high doses like this you most definitely want to have GH in your system so your body can utilize the compounds to the fullest
 
Laurabolin worked fine. I always think man, the most I could use was 10cc week or 500mg. That was pushing it. Later, there was concept of front loading the long acting stuff. Someone could go to Mexico and stay overnight jacking “front loading” 1000mg cyp or 4 bottles of depotsterona. I was a bit young, so the emphasis was on strength, which was amazing.
 
I have been interested in nandrolone with the laurate ester. Did you feel like it acts more like decca or more like a phenylpropionate?
I haven’t heard much real life experience ive only really read about it and what’s on paper can be very different than what it’s like in real life.

Frontloading is something ive never done but I can imagine its a hormone roller coaster way up and then way down unless you continue the protocol over and over?
 
Yes. Having done that in awhile(frontloading). It was a means to an end. Now we seem to have every drug with every ester. Hard to say on Larabolin, I didn’t know about all the blood levels and other shit and sometimes being a little ignorant is bliss. I feel everything by 2 weeks in or theres a problem. I’ve always said that I know/knew I was on by the way I felt. Id expect 2 weeks and BAM, wieghts felt lighter just taking them off the rack and the pump. If someone is using good shit and taking 1, 1.5, 2 grams whatever the results should be noticeable, IMO. Even now, Muscles get fuller and the look at a certain weight is different. I actually am under the impression that as the years go by , the “mature muscle sets in” your dosages go down because your trying to keep muscle and then keep shaping it, causing the illusion. Even Power athletes . You know what im saying.
 
I do understand about having a solid base and then not needing to really push the amount of compounds used because the mass is already there your goals are to shape nowadays not really needing the massive growth from alot of compounds.
I believe that this is what you mean?
 
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