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Ok I’ll tackle the state and federal employees not mandated. The reason for this is D.C. does not have the authority to mandate state and federal employees to wear masks, only those jurisdictions can make that order.

Being a federal employee, you are exempt from mandates by a state unless your federal agency mandates you follow local ordinances.

Also notice the mandate states “while on duty”, once off duty, you are no longer exempt.
 
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Hydroxychloroquine

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...roxychloroquine-can-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Ok the doctor comparing the flu deaths to covid deaths is misleading, with what 4.5 million cases currently in the USA, the flu generally infects upwards of 49 million, so yes as of now the death numbers will be higher. Not a good stat to use as the numbers infected are not equal.

And if hydroxychloroquine works, why isn’t it in your stockpile?

Trump’s transcript for grabbing pussy.
I think what everyone is missing about this “locker room” talk is that these are grown ass men, not 14-18 year old highschool kids. A grown man does not operate this way.

 
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Yes. Yes they do. This one is just silly to argue. If you have a circle of friends, it still goes on. Come on. You don’t really believe that do you??
 
This isn’t “I dated a girl, she gave the best blow jobs, or had the most amazing tits”.
This is straight up I just kiss them because I’m famous, and I get away with it.

I believe he actually does it, I guess I look at it this way, if my daughter was somehow in the position to meet someone famous, and she had no intention of kissing that person, it was just a chance meeting, or at a gathering, or whatever. I would be really pissed if some dude thought he could just go up to her and kiss her. I can’t believe people condone it, some old ass pervert walking through miss America pageants while they are changing, oggling them because he runs it, or just kissing women because he feels entitled to it? Cmon, you can’t agree with that kind of conduct, can you?

At what point do we expect more from a leader, a leader doesn’t point fingers, a leader inspires, a leader doesn’t make fun of people, a leader should be held to a higher standard as they have chosen that role. Not one speach has he ever tried to unify people, that’s not how a leader acts, at least my vision of a leader.

I’m not saying a leader doesn’t make mistakes, but they own them, Trump doesn’t own his, he deflects, and points fingers. The buck stops here as the saying goes, wether it’s the leaders fault or not, he’s in charge, he owns it, I don’t feel a person in his position can afford to point fingers, you own it and fix it.

Maybe I’m naive, maybe that’s how leaders act all over. Was it common in the military for your leaders to point fingers? To blame others? To divide, rather than unify the people in their charge?
 
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There’s not a politician on the face of the planet that owns there shit until after they get caught. Remember, every four years we elect the best liar with the least amount of skeletons in there closets.

I was not an Obama supporter to say the least for reasons we can argue about for days.
The Bush’s
Clinton
Reagan
Even Carter

They all did or said something , good and bad, that they will forever be remembered for.

At the end of the day we need to remember that we are Americans, we live in the greatest country in the world , and we must stand with our commander in chief.
Period
 
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Once again. He says he does it. Did he?. Dudes lie all the time about conquests. Did he do it? Maybe. I’m going to say BS.
Military leaders and political leaders are two different animals. Politics is all about the next 2, 4 or 6 year employment and saying what ever it takes. Military you want to talk leadership? Different story. You have to convince a 18-20 year old it’s a good idea to attack a position shooting at you. So I’m not even going to compare the two. Leadership in office is what ever the way the tide rolls. Media has a big play in that. Obama said about a BLMer killing 5 police officers “ there’s bad people on both sides and it happens.” But the media didn’t say anything. If Trump would have said that, you know a hand grenade would have gone off. The guy is a dick. Like most businessmen, that’s who he was. 20 years ago he got awards for helping black communities. Hell Sharpton and Jackson praised him. Now here we are. Orange man bad. Why? Because the media hates him for treating them like children. If Trump couldn’t tweet, about half these arguments are moot. But he’s a king troll. And people just jump on it cuz he’s troll.
 
I guess I’m just tired of the game. I’m not bashing Trump for being Trump, I haven’t seen a real leader in that position in my lifetime, I guess I’m just curious why we allow it. I’m not under any notions that Obama was a good president, that Bush, Clinton, Carter, Reagan were any better.

@Thunder to me there isn’t anything more American than calling bullshit on your government, it’s why the 2nd Amendment exists, it’s not for personal protection from other civilians, it’s for protection from your government.

It’s whatever I guess.
 
I love the bashing. I really do. I laugh cuz most have never experienced any other tyrannical government real time. No matter how bad it is here in the States, I think of places I’ve been to Somalia, Djibouti, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Uzbekistan and a dozen more places. People like to paint the US in all this bad light. But I’ll tell you what, even the US on its worst day is not like any best day in these shitholes. Yes I called them shitholes. Because they are… And we are blessed to call this one our shithole. 😂. Every time I’ve come home. I smile. Thank god for a successful mission and go to a grocery store, pick up steaks. A 12 pack and just sit in my back yard thinking. We truly live in one of the greatest countries ever. 😊
 
My thought is, even if we haven’t been to these shithole countries, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t push to make our country better. Complacency kills.
 
I think there are bigger things to worry about than spending time on one man… but that’s me. The take over of the house/senate and state governments by “the people” is going to turn this country into a shithole. Death from within will kill this country. All in the name of “the people”. Funny most of those in that group are willing to make everyone equal so those that work hard have no benefits of working hard. Go to just about any state and you can read about it. I will stand my line. I be Gotdamn if I will ever surrender to the current pussification/alphabetsoup/socialist plan. They have values on things, fine. But don’t waterboard me into thinking it’s all normal and good. You don’t see anyone forcing AFAC apologizing for their beliefs. But if a bunch of southern boys took that stand? Shït. There would a media outrage. The left has gone so far left they are agreeing with the far right now on their ideology. Only in the opposite exposure. Taking off all the black people from products. Well now you got the Far right happy. All white people. 😂😂. No one thinks. And white woke people are the fucking worst.
 
It’s not a threat when treated properly and timely. That’s the whole point and studies prove that. The govts are taking away the rights for people to get the proper medical care.

And yes I actually do stockpile for just about everything. Every year I have a list that people send me items so I don’t run out. Items that are not available in country and actually work or alot cheaper then locally. You learn skills on what you need and how to be prepared in life. I get stockpiled on dayquil and Nyquil by the case.
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And if hydroxychloroquine works, why isn’t it in your stockpile?
Did you not read the posts? You can’t be that stupid. I posted the government siezed it all. All across Europe it’s being used

If hydroxycloroquin doesn’t work then why is it used and proven all over Europe and being pushed by actual medical doctors in the US?
 
😂 best one liner on the thread. Fucking great response. I can feel the sarcasm flowing through you. 😂
 
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I don’t respond much. I here so many different things We need to get rid of all the political bullshit and reincarnate George Washington. It’s time for a revolution. Dems don’t run the country nor does the republicans. They just a bunch of flipping puppets. Amazon and Walmart and big oil and big Pharma and google and Facebook. They run the mother schoochin country. Which I love this country still the best in the world no question.
 
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