Proviron options?
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NeuroRN
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Proviron is best used on cycle. It will help free up some test and keep it from being bound to SHBG, by binding to SHBG. It also helps increase the androgen side of the androgen:estrogen ratio.
When they used it for hypogonadal men, it in now way increased FSH and LH or impacted the restart of the HPTA axis. It only increased sex drive. It is suppressive to endogenous test at 150mg daily on average.
What do you mean repair receptors? Our receptors don’t get damaged from use.
If you mean the supposed down regulation of the AR receptor… I’ve yet to find a single study that shows this is real. (As always if someone has an ace in the hole on this I’m ALWAYS welcome to new information)
As far as I can tell the idea of receptor down regulation, and cycling AAS for that matter comes from a single study from a looooong time ago where they gave 70 year old men in a nursing home anavar and it showed positive results for 6-8 weeks. However, these men were not exercising, eating the minimal daily caloric requirement (of nursing home food) required by their facility, and had no testosterone base during their use. And yet here we are… some 40ish years later still talking about downrgulation of receptors.
When they used it for hypogonadal men, it in now way increased FSH and LH or impacted the restart of the HPTA axis. It only increased sex drive. It is suppressive to endogenous test at 150mg daily on average.
What do you mean repair receptors? Our receptors don’t get damaged from use.
If you mean the supposed down regulation of the AR receptor… I’ve yet to find a single study that shows this is real. (As always if someone has an ace in the hole on this I’m ALWAYS welcome to new information)
As far as I can tell the idea of receptor down regulation, and cycling AAS for that matter comes from a single study from a looooong time ago where they gave 70 year old men in a nursing home anavar and it showed positive results for 6-8 weeks. However, these men were not exercising, eating the minimal daily caloric requirement (of nursing home food) required by their facility, and had no testosterone base during their use. And yet here we are… some 40ish years later still talking about downrgulation of receptors.
I’m finding from personal experience now this is just me. That I’m not using it on cycle anymore. But I run large cycles that already crush my shgb. So I’ll probably only use it during cruises but I dropped it about 3 weeks ago. When I got my bloods it was 2.
I use it on and off. For me i Use it like @NeuroRN said…. I reduced my t dosing by a smidge while taking it and taken it while increasing a bit.
Trying to find a sweet spot where everything works at minimal doses and I can get best bang for my buck.
Been experimenting with it for a year or two. Right now I’m on 25mg a day for a few months now.
Trying to find a sweet spot where everything works at minimal doses and I can get best bang for my buck.
Been experimenting with it for a year or two. Right now I’m on 25mg a day for a few months now.
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Aude_Aliquid_Dignu
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Free Test levels you would expect to see (dose dependant) require a SHBG in the double digits for me, I think.
For me, Proviron is like oral masteron in that its principal impact is to manage elevated estradiol. At 50mg per day in equally divided doses, morning and evening, it has roughly the same impact on me as 50mg of mast prop ED. So far, that is. Have only been running it for about six weeks.
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