Second Cycle Log | Test E 300mg/week + Var | Advice Welcome

[Tickle]

So, I think it’s about time I start my second cycle, I’m pretty set on running…

300mg of Test E (again, I felt fucking amazing at 300)
25mg of Var for week 4-6
50mg of Var for week 6-12

I wanted to get y’all’s thoughts. Of course, I would be training like I did last cycle but this time incorporating a little more cardio in the mix & try to eat more.

I cant wait to start doing write ups again & logging everything. Let me know what you think. I know I heard @Poppy say on another thread he didn’t like Var to much, so I’m curious how my body will react to it. @NeuroRN @Rusty @JLee Im tagging y’all because y’all were active in this thread with me throughout my first cycle. So I wanted to get your opinion on the second cycle.

Here is the link to my first cycle earlier this year with results & a full breakdown. First Cycle Log | Test E 300mg/week | Advice Welcome

 

[Angelo_47]

Totally agree with NeuroRN. IF you are 23 yo just hit the gym and the table and you are God. I started as now I m 47…not much T left there…

 

[NeuroRN]

Looking back, you said you’d be getting lab work in June. Post up a screenshot of those results, maybe even get another set done now that you’ve been off pct for awhile and go from there.

 

[Poppy]

I have other life sustaining meds that hit my kidneys and liver already. It’s doable and necessary.

Anavar just wasn’t agreeable to me personally. I didn’t feel “right/well” on it either.

 

[Jonny]

For me var felt awesome at 50mg/day. Training was awesome and I had a pump 24/7 lol

 

[Poppy]

Did you retain your gains after your first cycle? You looked great afterwards.

You still in school?

 

[Poppy]

For y’all just joining the conversation. @Tickle looks great.

 

[JLee]

I’ve never ran var so I cant vouche for it. Maybe just run it at the end? Maybe some Tbol at the beginning for a kickstart?

 

[xdefexx]

Following this closely. I am wondering what more advanced users would think about adding in proviron to this cycle to free up some more T? Advisable in Tickle’s case or not? Also, I do know that vigorousSteve on YouTube suggests tbol as first oral taken daily pre-workout. Anyone who knows more pls correct me if I am wrong!!

 

[Poppy]

Prov isn’t a bad idea.

Dbol is so darn toxic. It has a purpose but it’s dangerous.

Edit…dbol is on my personal no-fly list. So my comments are one sided.

 

[Poppy]

Correction again!!! You said tbol not dbol. My bad.

Tbol is on my to do list. It’s rated very good.

 

[xdefexx]

Yes, I’m talking turinabol haha. Steve says dbol is for later on if your sides are easily manageable w safer orals

 

[NeuroRN]

Your taking TBOL now?

I’m an idiot. TALKING. Not taking.

 

[Poppy]

I am maybe in a few months

 

[Tickle]

@NeuroRN I’ll get some labs this week & post them up man

 

[Tickle]

You’re too kind, I hope I can make some drastic results this cycle. But still keeping it 300mg because I want to slowly build up so my tolerance is low.

I’ve heard many things about Var, but I wanna try that before I try something like Tren

 

[NeuroRN]

But still keeping it 300mg because I want to slowly build up so my tolerance is low.

Tolerance to test is a complete myth in my opinion. Otherwise trt would eventually quit working. And these old men like @Poppy would be on a Gram a week with numbers barely within range.

 

[PNWmuscle]

Agreed

 

[Jonny]

I may be confused by what you’re saying. isn’t there a point where the gains at a particular dose slowdown and stop and you need to come off ?

 

[Poppy]

What @NeuroRN is refering to is test taken at a certain dose will keep your t levels at a certain level. Your body doesn’t build up a tolerance where as 500mg a week will eventually not keep your levels at the same place.

What you’re asking is will the gains eventually stop… they always do. Even the ifbb pros run into walls. When it comes to the chemical part a person has to find they’re best mix. When the gains quit coming they have to either change training, diet maybe their aas mix.

You pct off to get your body producing it’s own hormones again to avoid being permanently shutdown. Sometimes it’s successful sometimes not. If not, you got a choice… walk around with t in the crapper or trt for life.