Second cycle thinking about adding NPP

[John]

I was thinking of another thread @Rusty

 

[GillyTheKid]

So what dosage would be good with it 200 plus? I’m 180 pounds 5’9 I always go with less is more anyway

 

[John]

Have you used npp before? I usually use long esters but I feel 300-400 of npp per week is not excessive, at the same ti.e Starting low is good like you said, personally id drop the tbol and let the npp do its work, I feel you’d get more out of the npp then the tbol… Also @GillyTheKid I’m not tryin to change up your plan on you, just presenting different options and ways of looking at it.

 

[GillyTheKid]

For sure John, I’ll update you guys I’ll start low . Only thing is I don’t wanna push my test higher than 500. I feel great with 400

 

[GillyTheKid]

Never tried it before

 

[Rusty]

What kind of test?

 

[GillyTheKid]

Super sustanon then sustanon when it runs out

 

[Rusty]

Ive never used Sust so I don’t know how long it takes to get to full levels. But if your already taking it your already there. NPP is a shorter ester try 250 per week do .4ml Ed with a slin if after a couple weeks you wanna up both and see how you feel go for it. I’m on 350/700 and love it. Plus proviron and cialis

 

[GillyTheKid]

I use proviron too and I just use NPP from SRX. It would have to be everyday? Can’t do MWF?

 

[Rusty]

Ya you can do Mwf. I like Ed but that’s just me

I just thought of something. I have seen people run NPP at higher than 50% I think the 2/1 is a general rule of thumb. But if you don’t wanna go over your sweet spot with test you can still
Up NPP without upping test

 

[GillyTheKid]

Yeah I saw some people do 300/400, guess it’s all just how it feels with the individual and sides

 

[Ambitionzcs]

Npp is great but I always end up hurting myself more on deca/npp as everything feels smooth but once I got off my joints were worse then before. If your aware of that and keep your form good then it’s a great compound

 

[Stratfordave]

I’d consider 200 mgs of deca for 16 weeks and then assess how you feel from a therapeutic perspective… I’ve tried this in the past with marginal effects on joints…quality turmeric, for me at least, is 10x better as an anti inflammatory for aches and pains.

 

[herrubermensch]

For me, by far, the best anti-inflammatory is kratom. It literally is the only anti-inflammatory that works on a bad sinus infection, but it is unbeatable for me when it comes to relieving joint pain from a workout. I don’t use it PWO, just after when I’m hurting. I also find it a good substitute for alcohol and other things you shouldn’t be doing!

 

[Bigmurph6]

Its just that though a substitute. Don’t get me wrong that’s how I got clean was by using a substitute buprenorphine. Its just that Kratom can become addictive over time and over time its effects diminish just like other compounds.
Just becareful with it ive heard great stories about people who use it for pain instead of opiates which I understand opiates are the devil and shouldn’t be used to treat inflammation or minor pain. Kratom is an option for here and there unless you really want to take it everyday for a reoccurring issue as medicine.
I personally think myself marijuana high in cbd with thc is great for pain and inflammation. I would only use indica strains though I don’t believe that sativa strains help very much with pain or inflammation but everyone is different and nowadays the laws are all over the place on marijuana legality around the world.

 

[Bigmurph6]

Would 200 NPP a week be a good start and is that enough for the therapeutic effects?

If you’re going therapeutic brother I would recommend decca over npp just because its more convenient to use for therapeutic effects.
The hgh will definitely help also with therapeutic effects.

If you’re attempting to fix an injury with hgh and nandrolone I don’t believe that it will work without a break from lifting. If its just for all around therapy then that makes more sense and will help you feel better.

Me personally unless I take something that causes p2 increases I don’t usually see an issue unless I allow my estrogen to get to high and that’s when I start needing to use caber.
I believe that with 4 tabs of caber you can control your p2 as long as you keep your estrogen just above out of range instead of allowing it to reach higher than around 60 but everyone is different.
I have noticed this over the years but there’s another issue with p2 in your cycle which is the HGH it can also cause a rise in p2 so I would definitely be careful and just follow your blood work and I believe that you will be good brother.

Good luck and good gains

 

[herrubermensch]

Agree. I use Kratom maybe 2-4 times a week at most and in what most users would describe as pretty light doses (usually 3g).

Weed makes me dizzy and nauseous, so it’s not an option. CBD with some THC content, however, may work well, as CBD alone has some beneficial effects on me. Definitely something to explore.

 

[Bigmurph6]

If you have medical or recreational marijuana available forget the street stuff for this purpose.
You can ask for a straight indica strain with high cbd if available. I would even try to get edibles over smokable. I don’t believe that leaf would help the best for pain and inflammation the creams, caps, gels, liquids all work really well brother and you don’t need to get high. You can just use maybe 10mg to begin possibly 5mg and raise as needed. I believe that this will help better than kratom and it wouldn’t get you stoned like past experiences so you won’t feel the dizzy or nausea that you have in the past with leaf marijuana. With it being made medical it has changed alot so that it really helps. The only problem is that most can’t take advantage of medical marijuana because of drug tests at work.

 

[GillyTheKid]

Only reason I didn’t want deca was the water retention and bloat. Just in case I have to cut weight for a competition

 

[Bigmurph6]

I only reccomend decca for convenience so the npp should be great just remember with npp it has a very heavy ester so the amount of available hormone is less.

Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg

Its actually more than decca which surprised me actually

63mg per 100mg is available so if you want add a bit more npp maybe 100mg 3x a week mwf and that will give you 189mg available estimated average per week.

Good luck and good gains brother