The Coronavirus Attacks Fat Tissue, Scientists Find

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/08/health/covid-fat-obesity.html

So this study which was done thru Stanford University School of Medicine was posted in October and is ignored by others for peer review.

It’s been pointed out prior that many people who died were obese and had other issues.

A good point is that HIV and influenza can work in the same way. But the government wants more deaths and wants unhealthy fat citizens. Fat people have more health issues and need less prescription medications. Less meds = less money for big pharma donors.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.24.465626v1

Someone like @John and @PHD that walk around lean all year wouldn’t get hit has hard as others.

Since I just noticed its behind a paywall for some of you.
From the start of the pandemic, the coronavirus seemed to target people carrying extra pounds. Patients who were overweight or obese were more likely to develop severe Covid-19 and more likely to die.

Though these patients often have health conditions like diabetes that compound their risk, scientists have become increasingly convinced that their vulnerability has something to do with obesity itself.

Now researchers have found that the coronavirus infects both fat cells and certain immune cells within body fat, prompting a damaging defensive response in the body.

“The bottom line is, ‘Oh my god, indeed, the virus can infect fat cells directly,’” said Dr. Philipp Scherer, a scientist who studies fat cells at UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, who was not involved in the research.
“Whatever happens in fat doesn’t stay in fat,” he added. “It affects the neighboring tissues as well.”

The research has not yet been peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, but it was posted online in October. If the findings hold up, they may shed light not just on why patients with excess pounds are vulnerable to the virus, but also on why certain younger adults with no other risks become so ill.

The study’s senior authors, Dr. Tracey McLaughlin and Dr. Catherine Blish of the Stanford University School of Medicine, suggested the evidence could point to new Covid treatments that target body fat.

“Maybe that’s the Achilles’ heel that the virus utilizes to evade our protective immune responses — by hiding in this place,” Dr. Vishwa Deep Dixit, a professor of comparative medicine and immunology at Yale School of Medicine, said.

The finding is particularly relevant to the United States, which has one of the highest rates of obesity in the world. Most American adults are overweight, and 42 percent have obesity. Black, Hispanic, Native American and Alaska Native people in the U.S. have higher obesity rates than white adults and Asian Americans; they have also been disproportionately affected by the pandemic, with death rates roughly double those of white Americans.
“This could well be contributing to severe disease,” Dr. Blish said. “We’re seeing the same inflammatory cytokines that I see in the blood of the really sick patients being produced in response to infection of those tissues.”

Body fat used to be thought of as inert, a form of storage. But scientists now know that the tissue is biologically active, producing hormones and immune-system proteins that act on other cells, promoting a state of nagging low-grade inflammation even when there is no infection.
Inflammation is the body’s response to an invader, and sometimes it can be so vigorous that it is more harmful than the infection that triggered it. “The more fat mass, and in particular visceral fat mass, the worse your inflammatory response,” Dr. McLaughlin said, referring to the abdominal fat that surrounds internal organs.

Fat tissue is composed mostly of fat cells, or adipocytes. It also contains pre-adipocytes, which mature into fat cells, and a variety of immune cells, including a type called adipose tissue macrophages.

Dr. McLaughlin, Dr. Blish and their colleagues carried out experiments to see if fat tissue obtained from bariatric surgery patients could become infected with the coronavirus, and tracked how various types of cells responded.

The fat cells themselves could become infected, the scientists found, yet did not become very inflamed. But certain immune cells called macrophages also could be infected, and they developed a robust inflammatory response.

Even stranger, the pre-adipocytes were not infected, but contributed to the inflammatory response. (The scientists did not examine whether particular variants were more destructive in this regard than others.)
The research team also obtained fat tissue from the bodies of European patients who had died of Covid and discovered the coronavirus in fat near various organs.
The idea that adipose tissue might serve as a reservoir for pathogens is not new, Dr. Dixit said. Body fat is known to harbor a number of them, including H.I.V. and the influenza virus.

The coronavirus appears to be able to evade the body fat’s immune defenses, which are limited and incapable of fighting it effectively. And in people who are obese, there can be a lot of body fat.

A man whose ideal weight is 170 pounds but who weighs 250 pounds is carrying a substantial amount of fat in which the virus may “hang out,” replicate and trigger a destructive immune system response, said Dr. David Kass, a professor of cardiology at Johns Hopkins.

“If you really are very obese, fat is the biggest single organ in your body,” Dr. Kass said.

The coronavirus “can infect that tissue and actually reside there,” he said. “Whether it hurts it, kills it or at best, it’s a place to amplify itself — it doesn’t matter. It becomes kind of a reservoir.”

As the inflammatory response snowballs, cytokines trigger even more inflammation and the release of additional cytokines. “It’s like a perfect storm,” he said.

Dr. Blish and her colleagues speculated that infected body fat may even contribute to “long Covid,” a condition describing troublesome symptoms like fatigue that persist for weeks or months after recovery from an acute episode.
The data also suggest that Covid vaccines and treatments may need to take into account the patient’s weight and fat stores.

“This paper is another wake-up call for the medical profession and public health to look more deeply into the issues of overweight and obese individuals, and the treatments and vaccines we’re giving them,” said Barry Popkin, a professor of nutrition at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who has studied the heightened risk that Covid poses to those with obesity.

“We keep documenting the risk they have, but we still aren’t addressing it,” Dr. Popkin said.
 
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I think @NeuroRN had posted about his obese patients before.

I personally believe everything you posted above to be true but the non-critical thinkers that’ll throw up that “one person” that was healthy and died from -19… it’s hard to have a discussion.

There’s very little data to show a difference between dying with covid and dying from covid.
 
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that was healthy and died from -19
Honestly many people appear healthy and they are not. They have other conditions they never talk about. Then of course all the bullshit past years exposed how many doctors are willingly to lie for money.

Out of the people I know that had covid personally, the obese ones were severely more affected, 1 died, and the ones in shape or little body fat compared it to having the flu was all.

One of the other things to take into effect is people with a strong natural immune system and in good health, shouldn’t take any experimental vaccines just to appease others and the governments kickbacks.
 
They are straight up taking away MD and RN licenses over “spreading misinformation” like “ivermectin has been used to treat viruses for years”
 
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Did you guys hear about the 7 Germans that just got the omnicron china virus variant that were all triple vaxxed lol. All had their boosters and still got it.
 
Most infections are being found in upper respiratory which is much better than lower. This is the path we would expect lethal virus to take over time. The first wave killed the hosts to quickly. This one would allow the virus to live longer which is all it wants.

If this is actually accurate information this should
Signal the ending of all this bullshit.
 
I honestly don’t see the US getting back to how it was ever unless it goes to civil war. Just my own thoughts and wonder why no ones paid a visit to fauci yet. The left has control and watched as the right did nothing when they cheated and will do it again. Only now they’re talking about running Hilary again next term so the fix can be more believable given bidens numbers. It will continue until the US is destroyed and socialism takes over.
 
In Europe Austria is forcing vaccinations, vaccine passports and lock downs on everyone over 5. If you don’t get it you get jailed or pay 600 euros a month (which most cant afford). The EU chairwoman husband works as a medical director for a pharma company that partners with Pfizer is trying to make that the standard. Yet media will never talk about her husbands employment. Germany is following Austria of course. Amazing the wealth all these people have acquired that is never questioned.

 
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Very scary stuff.

If all this comes to fruition then this old cynic will be the “I told you so” guy. Although it will be too late.
 
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Before the elections liberals were against the vaccine until they found a way to use lockdowns to their advantage politically and monetarily. People that talked about camps and vaccine passports were labelled as conspiracy theorists. Right after they took power they went full swing and now we see it everywhere.

And thru it all Pfizer refuses to allow the vaccine into any country unless they have immunity. If it was safe they wouldn’t need immunity. But how much easier would the world be to control if all the people got sick and more illnesses in the next 10 years.
 
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This kind of stuff happens a lot. Companies put certain people in place in politics just for self gain. Laws are made to force products and prices especially when someone has a patent on something. Look at Obama care. Our own government forced us to pay for something that was so outrageously expensive with massive deductibles that we never even use it. We pay for something that we still have to pay out of pocket for all our care that we never exceed the $5,000 deductible. Yet people still praise him.
 
And democrats want to keep their base stupid so they will keep praising them. Its happening in all different places where they are lowering standards claiming to help minorities when the real purpose is keeping them unable to research for themselves and think for themselves.

 
Yup. They are the real discriminators. They are basically all saying the minorities are not able to take care of themselves they need our help to survive. If I was a minority I would be so offended by there propaganda
 
Yep. But the people that are uneducated are too stupid to see this about themselves. New reports came out the hispanics are now evenly split between with parties but even among hispanic women that strongly disapprove of Bidens policies they would still vote for him in 2024 against anyone else.

But democrats are priming Hillary again for a run so it will be interesting to see what happens. They’ll still fix the election and need to maintain the fake ass pandemic to ensure mail in voting everywhere so its easier to fix it.
 
We need the purple finger voting system… our elections have basically sunk to 3rd world country level anyways.
 
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