BBSQ5 - Esquel Labs Fitness/Cycle Log

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Tues: Legs
Wed: Walk/Abs
Thurs: Chest

So, all of this talk about Test 1g and what to pair it with and who likes Tren versus Deca, etc.

What are people’s feelings on Primo??
I hear mixed emotions and I know old school, like Arnold like it and I know @Neuro had some good success. @TG

Like Tren/Test/Primo for a spring/summer run??

What dose to maximize benefits, because I know it’s not the strongest, but accents other stuff well.
 
it’s one of my favorites and if I had an endless supply of the real deal and could afford it I’d run it all the time.

I ran NPP/Primo and loved it. But very low dose.

I don’t see many people talking about tren and primo. They will probably tell you tren will outshine the primo and you’d have to take a lot to see it work.

I’m not a tren fan, and I’m extremely conservative. But if I were running those three I’d run 300 test/300 primo/ 140 tren (20mg daily) and call it a day.
 
Haven’t used it, but heard really great things from others in my gym that used to compete years ago on how well it makes the body look.

Test/NPP/Primo would be a good one!
 
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Neuro said:
I don’t see many people talking about tren and primo. They will probably tell you tren will outshine the primo and you’d have to take a lot to see it work.
Exactly. It’s really based on a cost issue. Legit primo is usually more expensive then Tren for what you get. Tren is a better value and like you said I was told to run at same doses or close to as tren anyway. I have some around here but not enough to run a legitimate cycle.

If you’re competing then it’s worth it before comp but not so much imo as a regular stack. It does go good together.

If you don’t like the sides of tren then as an alternative it’s a more expensive option.
 
BBSQ5 said:
make sure you hit close to center on either
Just re read… Center of the muscle… I was thinking center of the leg 🤣🤣 wtf…I’ve actually been hitt low on the muscle . Because when I have a reaction it tends to drop down towards the Achilles tendon but when I do have a reaction higher up it swells up the whole fucking calf. Tendon more tolerable and goes away a lot quicker
 
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Everything is individual and I personally don’t think TrenE is more toxic than TrenA. Just a longer esther. But, I’m not a Tren expert by any means.
 
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I do not disagree, but I didn’t feel right the two times I took ACE versus E. Might have to give it a shot again and adjust, because I was also not pushing Test the way that @TG and all of us have discussed. Especially while taking Tren period.
 
750 was too much for me on ace. Was getting wicked heart burn. But a week later after dropping it to 450 today my chest and throat are back to normal. So glad it was a instead of e. And this definitely helps me decide 400 is enough when I run the e
 
TG said:
Exactly. It’s really based on a cost issue. Legit primo is usually more expensive then Tren for what you get. Tren is a better value and like you said I was told to run at same doses or close to as tren anyway. I have some around here but not enough to run a legitimate cycle.
Hey, so if you have legit Primo, you’d agree that a Tren/Primo/Test stack run would be good, or a waste of money and run Primo with another stack/cycle?? @TG
 
Finish the first cycle and then are you taking time off?

We need to get bloods and see where we’re at either way.

With Primo and EQ let’s see where we get with your estrogen bloodwork before the cycle. Keep test at 1g and then we’ll play with the numbers based on how long you want to run the cycle for. Primo we could keep high and run eq at a lower level or start with equal lower levels on Primo and EQ and adjust it based on bloodwork and how you’re reacting/feeling during the cycle.

We always have to remember cycles can be changed as needed but bloodwork We need to know the baselines and don’t want to crash your e2 during cycle and not making adjustments. If trying new cycles should always be monitoring to see how your body is being affected.
 
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Yes Sir, I will be slowing back down to my TRT prescribed dose after this cycle!

Have labs ordered and will get them drawn next week for normal follow up HRT 6 month appt., and cause he likes to monitor my labs when I blast like this. Will order again after this cycle is done, cause we like to do them more often than 6 months when blasting and making sure all is well.

Will circle back on this stack with you once I have finished this round and had another lab work up done. I kind of plan too far in advance sometimes, cause my mind just keeps going.

FYI…I don’t take a long time off, of all labs are consistent, but I have never really hit higher dosing on things compared to what others run in past rounds. Taking a couple good runs though of some advised like this one by you, as long as labs and body are good to go.
 
Still working same rotation on workouts and trying to stay in the groove now that cough is starting to subside somewhat.

Start of week 7 for pinning. Haven’t take the Dbol in over two weeks and really don’t have a gauge as to whether it helped put in some size, because I don’t use scale anymore and rely on my Dexa. That’s not until next week though and will give me 8 weeks on this sponsor’s stuff.

Calories are still around about 3,800-4,200/day and macros are still close to same as before with carbs at 40%, protein at 35% and fat at 25%.
 
BBSQ5 said:
cough is starting to subside
Don’t start that shit. Working out today I breathed in one good time and felt this instant scratchiness in my throat and it hasn’t left yet it’s like I got to keep Hocking a loogie…
 
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