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Little medical history.
13 months ago he came down w debilitating stomach pain and was scaned and poked by all the doctor’s locally, and gastro specialists. Ended up last month at Vanderbilt in Nashville where the high risk surgery team came up with basically his colon was all twisted and kinked and had a place full of inflamed diverticulitis.
Surgery team removed 14 inches of colon and 1 abscess and now no more stomach pain other than what comes from the surgery.
They stated in the o.r. how malnourished he was and guys its bad today he weighs 137lbs
5 yrs ago he received a kidney transplant and ive had him on low dose primobolan which with alot of studying the docs said would help curb the corticosteroids and depression and weight loss so we did it.
He gets labs done about 1ce a month in high detail and has the best results out of anyone in the family.
Ive rode shotgun w him 7 days a week for 23 yrs now just an all around cool mfr. But man you dont have to know about medicine to see he’s at his end. Hes a skeleton, empty and hollow. Most of this comes from the past year of a few hundred calories a day from the pain that would keep him bedridden. He was scared to eat.
Moms a np but idk how i think she should work at McDonald’s instead. She sees no problem and i preach to both of them he needs to be eating at least 3500 cal a day for 6 mo easily. AND needs 140 gr. Protien especially now that hes healing internally. They both say aww hes eating good and im like what, well he had a microwave breakfast sandwich and 2 pieces of pizza and 1 ensure. … 137lb yall all know your not gaining shit on that.

Heres what im thinking…
These drugs were made for this exact purpose but they never use them. I wanna run him on npp. But idk if i should up his test to say test 400 npp 300? Or can i hypothetically keep his test at maintenance level and up npp to 300 this way.
Keep in mind thats what most of these drugs were created for and hes definitely fading anyway. I hope 90 days but dont really believe i have that much left.
Past 2 weeks hes lost 6lbs
 
Damn bro. Sorry to hear that. I would keep his levels around test 250 and gradually scale up everything. Thats what I did with my father for awhile and he still got his checkups at VA for bloods. Im not a medical professional so I think @Neuro or @rnmuscle would be best to chime in here.
 
It’s going to be hard for him to gain weight with the Diverticulitis. That can be some nasty stuff.

Personally I’d stick with primo over nandrolone. Primo is more benign, and will add in some immune system support.

Start low. There’s no need for him to run 400 of anything honestly. Primo shows growth in studies as low as 100mg a week.

250 of test and 100-200 of primo is plenty for someone in his condition.

More than compounds he needs high quality food. High protein and cal shakes and smoothies. Find out what is easy On his stomach and GI tract and go from there. Most ppl struggle to absorb nutrients efficiently with Diverticulitis. Food is going to be the driving force here.
 
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But man you dont have to know about medicine to see he’s at his end
If this is the truth…. It’s time for a hard conversation buddy. I may sound like an asshole but I have this same conversation with families on a weekly basis.

If he’s no longer able to do the things he loves. And if he is in a state that he wouldn’t want to live his life in… the thought process cannot come from your own wants and desires… it has to come from his.

It’s shitty either way. And I’m so sorry you’re going through this. But in the end the biggest honor to him is doing things the way he would want, and not what you want.
 
Yessir but we paid a fortune to get her thru school. I wouldnt go to her. She was a surgical nurse for 25 yr prior, she works at a woman clinic now
 
Hey brother we all will go through it at some point my realtionship with my father has been getting lot better as of late. He is starting to understand me better and I y derstand him more. Will be hard to move from him
 
You’re right about that he seems like old age and death snuck up on him but hes got alot of issues. Good luck w u and your dad that can be a great relationship
 
Well if he doesnt have much time left,what good is Npp,or whatever else gonna do? And forcing him to do some he might not want to do is just gonna make his last days here more miserable.or how about other options then steroids,what mitrazapine,helps improve mood and increase appetite,seems your stuck on steroid options when there’s others out there, edibles to…
 
I would actually recommend Anadrol for this situation. It’s been shown to be extremely effective for muscle wasting situations and is currently one of the few drugs indicated for HIV/AIDS muscle wasting. Personally I don’t think injecting something daily is a good option for him. It’ll be harder for him to stick to. He’d get just as good results doing a twice weekly cocktail of test and something mild like primo, mast or just forgoing those ancillaries and taking test twice a week along with the Anadrol 50mg daily (the therapeutic dose). I’m aware that it isn’t great for his liver, but that shouldn’t be the priority at the moment — getting his weight up as fast as possible is — and that is exactly what the drug is designed to do. You can keep him on it safely for up to 90 days before it would be wise to take him off but by then, assuming he’s getting enough calories, he should be good. I would also put him on a liquid diet so he can easily get the calories down. GOMAD is cheap and easy, but honestly making extremely calorie dense smoothies (think mass gainer plus oatmeal plus protein) would do best for him. Ensure is not gonna cut it.
 
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