Dads dying getting desperate

[anabolic_geek]

@Cluster I sincerely hope you put it to good use!

 

[Cluster]

Its hard as hell getting people who dont understand diets and calories and grams how to bulk hes seeing now how difficult it is to eat 3500 calories a day

 

[Poppy]

How old is your pop?

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

Can you meal prep for him?

 

[Cluster]

66 yr old

 

[Cluster]

Yes but getting him to push himself and stretch his stomach is another thing. He eats a little then hes good

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

Assuming he watches tv like my Dad…I would want to rig something up where every forkful he eats keeps the tv on for 15 mintutes

 

[Cluster]

Your a genius! See i keep making the point its not the fact that your horribly malnourished thats going to kill you in itself. But you know thats what the underlying reason is when old feeble people die. Like a cold becomes pneumonia and so forth

 

[anabolic_geek]

This is why liquid is the way to go

 

[Aude_Aliquid_Dignu]

It’s frustrating to know things that would help…going thru the same stuff with my dad. It a tough fight against “the way it’s always been”.

 

[Poppy]

The on going generational battle.

I can remember “you kids and your rock and roll music”. Hahaha

 

[Poppy]

I agree. You can make a calorie/nutrient dense shake that can be tailored to anyones sense of delicious.

 

[rnmuscle]

Im not going to pretend to be a know it all here. Your DAD has had a rough go last few years. He handled the transplant well? The medications for anti rejection can rough. Also, where they took “Colon” off can be rough on absorption. Does he get " nausea at the thought of eating? If hes hungry then any food that “agrees " with him is great. You can make a super calorie shake with half melted ben and jerrys, any ice cream. Protein powder made from beef protein or lactose free if the stuff doesnt “agree” the cahexic state is severe. If its getting to that point of losing him, well , I am sorry to say …I dont know how to personally handle that as i had/still have a hard time not having my mommy around. “Riding shotgun” as you say, seems like your very close. Very close. AAS with an abundance of calories even " junk” work very well. The increase in nitrogen balance is there so dont worry about protein, especially with kidney. If the point is to make him more cognitive and add some quality then go with the AAS and dense KCal. I would use some test but more of the anaabolics/ PRIMO. Make sure everything is good like magnesium, potassium, sodium all the electrolytes, and if he is handling the by products of increasing everything that would be excellent. Tough any way you cut it…

 

[rnmuscle]

Unfortunately, we are taught to treat symptoms and not be proactive, you are very perceptive.

 

[herrubermensch]

This is SO difficult. I’m so sorry for what your dad is going through and its impact on you. My own father was an All American for a major college from 49 through 53 and had a massive heart attack without warning at 62. He was never the same and sauntered on for a few years before he died. Both he and I assumed he would be that powerful “man’s man” forever, then all of a sudden he was not and then gone. I wish I had known then what I know now about AAS and other meds. I might have been able to extend his life or increase its quality after the heart attack. Kudos to you for confronting it squarely and doing what you can. My thoughts are with you and your dad.

 

[Cluster]

Thank you

 

[Cluster]

Thank you and so sorry about your dad he sounds awesome