First Cycle Log | Test E 300mg/week | Advice Welcome

[PNWmuscle]

I agree with you somewhat on the 25 being an arbitrary number, it’s just used as a general rule when giving advice to mitigate potential risk and people know what could possibly happen as some people are still developing at that time. A lot of things with AAS is completely individual. What works for some may not work for you. What risks some people don’t have to worry about, you might have to worry.

It’s all a learning process, take it slow. We’re all here to help

 

[Tickle]

Of course, like I said, I stick to my diet plans I write, I stick to my training regiment & if something feels off I am prepared to take care of it in the best way possible. I appreciate y’all looking out for me, truly.

I am in the process once I begin I will upload some photos and update. Look forward to this learning experience.

 

[Rusty]

Hey brother. Why don’t you just take hcg for a couple of years. Hcg will stimulate your natural testosterone production and can increase it by 300 plus points. If you take any extra test you brain is gonna see it as I have too much and stop producing your natural. You also have the baby factor. You want kids or more kids. What’s gonna happen if your natural test gets permanently suppressed. Like @NeuroRN said it’s a stretch that your natural will get damaged that much but it is possible.

Look. Take HCG stimulate those testicles of yours to maximize their potential. Add in a diet high in zinc. Eat a lot of oysters or shrimp or just take a good supplement. Eat a lot of whole eggs. Your body uses cholesterol to make testosterone. Feed your body what it needs plus the HCG and watch your natural test spike!!! Also exercise those quads and hammys. There is a direct correlation between the size of a mans legs and his natty testosterone production. If you wanna go this route I willl be happy to put together a list of foods and a schedule for HCG as well. I learned this from my TRT doc.

Oh and that stuff from GNC that boosts natural test. Not worth the money. Plenty of sponsors here can set yup up with HCG. Just don’t ask which one. Research it. Good luck brother

 

[NeuroRN]

Like I said, it’s clear you’re gonna do what you want. Multiple people with years more experience are saying wait.

You don’t want to? Then go for it. I still don’t understand your rationale, but I don’t have to. Taking 300 mg of test now, has nothing to do with your baseline natural test levels. They will be independent values from one another.

I started out at 180lbs. I lifted for years natty, then added gear. You might keep 3-5 lbs od your gains. 5 would be a stretch. I don’t see you keeping near that much only consuming 2700 calories a day. My mass diet even off gear was 4000 +.

Personally If you’re going to mass, then mass. Stop worrying about staying lean. If you’re timing your meals and macros correctly you will be leanish while massing. Otherwise the gains will be painfully slow.

Lastly, I’m glad you came here. I’m glad you want to learn. To be part of a community of good people. You keep saying your open to suggestion etc, but then when everyone says the same thing (I wouldn’t do this) you defend your position no matter what. That’s not being open for suggestion.

At the end of the day… do what you want. It’s your body. Your life. Your decision. I wish you the best of luck on your cycle.

 

[Poppy]

Do what ya gotta do brother. Think with your head not your heart.

I would chop a pinky off to walk around with your natural test levels and metabolism. Haha

 

[Dirtnasty]

Honestly my take is if you are going to do it then go all in on 500 a week your going to be completely shut down whether you take it 300 a week or 500 a week. At your age you may barely even notice a difference on 300. That said I would give it a few more years before starting. Unless you are just maybe one or two cycles from being a legit pro card threat I don’t see the point at your age. I know social media makes kids view these things like they are needed at a younger age now a days than they are

 

[Poppy]

After re-reading this string. I believe you’re not taking full advantage of where you’re at in your biological life. With your natural t levels and metabolism…you could be eating like there’s no tomorrow…hitting the gym hard and easily put on 5-10 lbs of great mass by spring. Keep that up until this time next year and then run your first cycle. You very well could start your first cycle 15-20lbs bigger…naturally.

With that being said. You can still participate on this forum. Most of these guys me included are not “on” cycle most of the time anyways. That doesn’t mean we have to go away and not comment. Be patient young brother. You have a lot of living to do. For heaven’s sake dont rush it.

 

[NeuroRN]

No cycle like your first one. Might as well go at 500. I believe he will gain more insight and learn more about his response at 500 than 300. But it sounds like his mind is made up.

 

[Poppy]

My opinion and mine only is that he’s young and only has 2.5 years of lifting experience. He’s naturally lean unlike some of us fat aces that struggle to get DOWN to 200lbs. He hasn’t even come close to his natural ability. One more year of hanging out around here and eating like @Dirtnasty wouldn’t hurt. He could possibly start his first cycle at 200lbs @500 a week and make great gains…not just ok gains.

 

[PNWmuscle]

I agree with others if you’re going to go on cycle do 500mg per week instead of the 300.

 

[PNWmuscle]

 

[NeuroRN]

I often run my test in the 350 range on blast, but I also know I don’t like the way I feel on 500. But I only would know that by having the experience.

I agree with @Poppy he’s not eating near enough to gain big even on cycle. At 23 if he ate 4000 cals a day he would keep more gains than a cycle at 300mg.

But, as always. People gonna do what they wanna do.

 

[Poppy]

As y’all said. I wish him luck and prosperity. I hope he sticks around. And that’s a great big difference…your cycles aren’t willy nilly. You’ve got yourself dialed in.

 

[YukioMishima]

Hey bro, If I could go back I’d do shit a lot differently.

I was 21 when I started running gear, and I really regret that. Granted I was lifting since I was about 12 years old and already had a solid foundation. But dude, 2 years lifting? Bro, you aren’t even capped yet.

Anyways take it from me, I was working out a hardcore gym for years and the pressure was always there, and what did those guys recommend? Test and fuckin Tren as my first cycles. I cycled off but even after a few years of trying to PCT and recover my natural levels, shit was not coming back. I was on TRT by the time I was 25 or 26 and that’s gonna be for life. Just something to consider. Doctor visits, blood work, scripts for meds, constant monitoring of various health markers… just be prepared for that.

Just factor everything in bro, and of course be yourself and decide. Just remember this is no small decision.

Best of luck bro

 

[Bigmurph6]

We use 500mg as a guide because it should give you 2500 test numbers and this is believed to be the best starting amount to learn about e2 reaction and other issues that arise when running testosterone.

 

[herrubermensch]

Completely agree with @Dirtnasty: If you are going to do this, there is no reason not to go with a typical first cycle of 500mg of test each week. Whether 300 or 500, you will be completely shut down and once your cycle is over, you will have to hope that PCT brings you back. In all candor, it probably will if done correctly. If I were you, I would wait a couple more years to cycle, but if you are going to do it now, I would go to 500mg of test each week.

 

[Poppy]

@Tickle where ya at brother? There’s some golden knowledge on this thread. I promise you that no one’s hating on you @Bigmurph wouldn’t let that happen and this site is way better then that.

 

[Dirtnasty]

You also have other compounds involved as well like I’m going fromm 1200 to 600 in few weeks but will be having tren involved so it will still be good

 

[Bigmurph6]

I was looking forward to helping actually with getting him ready I believe that in 6 months to a year he can be cycle ready.
Just needs to figure out diet, training and once everything is working then you start your cycle and blow up I don’t understand why alot of people want to use AAS right away but unless you are ready for the cycle your not going to get anything out of it but once you are living the life carrying food and water around with you wherever you go then you are usually ready to cycle.

 

[Poppy]

Agreed