Igf-1 lr3, igf-1, and a bit more that I was reading and wanted to share

[Bigmurph6]

I DID NOT WRITE THIS ARTICLE

Very good I found on IGF1-LR3, MUST READ!​

This was written by a guy who has researched this stuff for 13 years and followed the work of Dave Palumbo and seems to be the best information out there on IGF-1 LR3. Leads me to the conclusion that 20mcg post workout bilateral injections would be best on workout days only. Anyway, Read up:

"What do we want? Bigger muscles. More muscle cells that we will later grow with exercise and gear. A pump? Fatloss? Yeah, right. You can get a pump with a good “pump” product for a quarter of the price of IGF-1. Fatloss? Clen/Alb and T3/T4 will give it to you again at a fraction of the price of IGF-1. More muscle cells, you can ONLY get with IGF-1 (and MGF too). Nothing else will give it to you and if you are using IGF-1 for anything else, you are misusing it. More muscle cells is CLEARLY the best use for IGF-1.

What does all this tell us?

It tells us that we should use IGF-1 to make more muscle cells. It’s the only thing that can give it to us and more cells is more growth, which is our goal.

What does this tell us?

The localized effects are the best. Long R3 IGF-1 can float around your body and attach to anything that has IGF-1 receptors. The intestines is the place that has the MOST IGF-1 receptors and it also happens to have lots of blood flow. Injecting large amounts of Long R3 ENSURES that you are growing your intestines. Remember, more cells doesn’t equal more size right away. Wait a bit, and see them grow.

What does this mean?

It means that if you are injecting upwards of 50mcg of IGF-1 you are growing your intestines. Yes you are also growing muscle and you may be getting leaner in the process. Your waistline looks trimmer. Nice. A few months down the line, your new intestinal cells will be of their full adult size and you will have acquired the perma-bloat look. Guaranteed. Maybe not Coleman-size perma-gut, but SOME perma-gut and it will keep growing. Guaranteed. Just as your new muscle cells can keep growing and growing IF you pin IGF-1 in a way to maximize new muscle cell creation.

HOW?

Heavy resistance exercise strongly upregulates the IGF-1 receptors on the stressed muscle. That means that after your workout, the muscles you trained are at their BEST STATE for receiving IGF-1 and growing many new cells. That’s when you pin. This upregulation of IGF-1 receptor during exercise is short-lived. The science is not readily available so I am unable to quote a paper, but within 60 minutes of the last set, the receptors are back at baseline. This means, PIN IMMEDIATELY POSTWORKOUT and you will get your new muscle cells. PIN A LESSER AMOUNT and you will get only new MUSCLE cells out of your IGF-1. Pin more and you will grow other things, including stuff you wish you didn’t grow.

What else?

All the talk about IGF-1’s half-life is UTTER BULLSHIT. It is technicality without any real-world applicability. Yes rhIGF-1 has a “short half-life”. But what does it mean? It means that it is either taken up by a cell receptor or bound up by a binding protein in short order. Does it mean that 20 minutes after the IGF-1 is pinned you should pin more because “blood levels are low”? Not by any means. Once it’s activated a cell receptor, that’s where it initiates a cellular response that will take about 72 hours to be complete and which will consume lots of energy. So the half-life of 20 minutes means NOTHING BECAUSE THE EFFECTS STILL LAST 72 HOURS ALL THE SAME.

What about Long R3 IGF-1?

Yes technically it has a longer half-life. Why? Because it either gets rapidly taken up by a cell receptor or… Just floats around. Until it can find a receptor or is destroyed by the immune system or some other metabolizing mechanism. BUT THIS MEANS NOTHING!!! Why does it mean nothing? BECAUSE once it attaches to a cell receptor, it initiates a cellular response that will take about 72 hours to be complete. THIS CELLULAR RESPONSE IS ALL THAT INTERESTS US. Not “blood levels”, that’s utter bullshit. As a matter of fact, the one thing YOU DO NOT WANT IS FOR BLOOD LEVELS OF IGF-1 TO BE ELEVATED. Because that means you are growing everywhere and this means first and foremost your guts. Sure it feels like it’s working while you’re on. Just you wait 9 months and see that you look like Craig Kovacs. Bravo, you now have the biggest intestines in the world.

Half-life means nothing. Localized vs systemic = bad argument. You want localized effects. Period. You get them by pinning immediately postworkout. Period. End of argument.

OMFG I am so tired of all the misinformation floating around on IGF-1. Look at the length of this post. Did you read all of it? You should, you know."

I just thought that this needed to be posted and looked over

 

[Dmomuchole]

I liked that thanks for sharing. Good info.I believe the IGF I got was bunk or no bueno. But that’s what I get not getting it from a UG sponsor. Plus if thats the route I wanna go I should plan on spending some big $$ on the real stuff. So I’ve concluded it’s best to start with HGH from a well known sponsor.

 

[NeuroRN]

Good read. Thanks for posting bro!

 

[Dirtnasty]

Yep I’m set going to try hgh before any igf. And really I feel like I get a bloated look real easy already

 

[Dmomuchole]

The only thing about hgh or igf from what I understand is you need to run it for at least 6 months before seeing any visible results but I think it boost our bodies self healing process rather quickly. So that can get costly. I’m starting out at 2-3 IU daily and we’ll see how that treats me.

 

[Dirtnasty]

When I was using mk677 indef felt like I recovered better also slept deeper I keep going back and forth whether or not to go back on. Then I think we’ll just save the money and put it towards the hgh

 

[NeuroRN]

That hgh sleep is something different. It’s about the only thing that really worked for me on hgh. I couldn’t take it in the morning… I couldn’t help it. I had to go to sleep once I took it.

 

[Dirtnasty]

I dosed mk at night for sleep but also to not get the hunger. If you want to eat use mk677 that’ll turn a cut into a bulk in no time

 

[Cluster]

Thank you for the article im going to have to bookmark this one!

 

[johnjuanb1]

My favorite way to take HGH was 5ius preworkout and load up on preworkouts for energy. The pump is pinche’ loco, Son! Haha real good pump!!!
MK-677 gave killer pumps and deep sleep with vivid dreams but the extreme fatigue always catches up with me, and my blood pressure jumps from the fast weight gain. If I use it again, which I have it on hand so it’s just a matter of time, I’ll take it sparingly, meaning one week on and off or maybe just a few days a week.
I’ve used a lot of igf1-Lr3. My favorite way to take it was micro-injected in the muscle I’m about to train preworkout. For chest I used to put 5 injects in each pec with 10mcg per injection site. The pump is crazy!

 

[johnjuanb1]

Check this out. MK-677 increases testosterone and free testosterone greater than TRT. We knew it raised HGH and IGF1 significantly, but T and FREE T also.

 

[Jsween94]

Nice. So pin after work out no gut growth. I’ve been very turned off from HgH or IGF because I don’t want to grow my ears and nose and gut.

 

[Matteon]

I never had the HGH sleep, but I would feel sluggish immediately after pinning it so I could never use it before a workout.